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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 19 July 2020 at 12:10AM
    This is working well as an informative group thread so everyone can see what happens when and what to do, before court claim stage (which is when you will ultimately win and shoud take it back to your own threads).

    This is thread is great for pre-action phase chat.
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  • Hi, I am a bit late to the party but since this is a group thread, I hope it is ok for me to mention that I have also received a LBC from CST Law, this time on behalf of Conkai Security Ltd (instructed by Debt Recovery Plus Limited, DRP) regarding a PCN dating from over four years ago. In fact, their initial letter did not even specify when or where the PCN was in relation to, but they have now sent a second letter including this information. Amusingly, this letter is dated to 3.5 weeks ago, even though I sent them my email requesting the missing information more recently than that date. Of course, they want payment or reply within 30 days of the date on the letter.

    Anyway, as per the advice in this thread and the Newbie Thread, I have sent an SAR to Conkai and informed CST Law that I have done so, requesting a 30-day hold on the case. Am I correct in thinking that is the correct course of action?

    Have any of you in this thread who followed this course of action heard back from either CST Law or their client? Or have they dropped the issue?
  • beamerguy
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    I seriously believe that this cartel operating between these legals is based on them passing around the "funny stuff" to each other.  

    That CST letter claiming £185 ???  As the debt CANNOT be owned by DRP, how can DRP instruct then, this is just rubbish.  CST state that they have added £15 for the clients time spent.  Very clearly, CST fail to understand the Supreme Court ruling

    Even if you take away the fake claim of £15, they are still claiming £170 and there is no legal authority to add an unlawful amount above the ticket charge. Again, they fail to understand the Supreme court ruling and as such immediately makes their claim unreliable.

    They finally say ... "The PAP obliges parties to act in a reasonable and proportionately manner" ?
    What part of the PAP do they not understand.
    Will they understand the new Civil Procedure rules as from 6th April 2020, very doubtful given what they do not understand already ?
  • Umkomaas said:
    Anyway, as per the advice in this thread and the Newbie Thread, I have sent an SAR to Conkai and informed CST Law that I have done so, requesting a 30-day hold on the case. Am I correct in thinking that is the correct course of action?
    That's correct  However, did you state in your request for a delay that you are seeking debt advice (they must put it on hold then) or that you are requiring the delay for the return of your SAR (they don't have to in that case)?

    Yes, I did say I was seeking debt advice - sorry, I made a mistake when I omitted this for brevity. I followed the instructions in the newbie thread, saying '(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.
    and
    (b) I have sent your client a SAR and have insufficient information, to date.'
  • Umkomaas
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    Umkomaas said:
    Anyway, as per the advice in this thread and the Newbie Thread, I have sent an SAR to Conkai and informed CST Law that I have done so, requesting a 30-day hold on the case. Am I correct in thinking that is the correct course of action?
    That's correct  However, did you state in your request for a delay that you are seeking debt advice (they must put it on hold then) or that you are requiring the delay for the return of your SAR (they don't have to in that case)?

    Yes, I did say I was seeking debt advice - sorry, I made a mistake when I omitted this for brevity. I followed the instructions in the newbie thread, saying '(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.
    and
    (b) I have sent your client a SAR and have insufficient information, to date.'
    That's all good. Thanks for clarification. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Afternoon everyone,

    just wanted to clear my confusion and ask a few questionS.

    I received 2 letters on 16th of June, from CST law. It stated that they had being “ instructed by Euro Car Parks Ltd regarding your outstanding account.” And instructed to call and pay by the 30th June. Each letter was for £160.

    I followed the advice and on the 27th June sent an Email to CST put things on hold for 30 days and sent a SAR to Euro car parks. 

    I received 2 more letter for CST dated the 26th title “Unpaid Debt - Reminder Notice.” Stating they had now been instructed by Debt Recovery Plus, as the agent of Euro car Parks. New deadline of 10th July. 

    I also received an email back from Euro car parks asking for proof of ownership or a VO5 due to GDPR. 


    The questions I have are, do I need to send proof of ownership or a VO5 to get SAR?  

    should I now expect a Letter before clam? 

    Is the land owner Euro car parks in this case as it was a their car park? And should I wright to them to get it dropped.


    I know you guys a busy and thank you in advance.
  • beamerguy
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    edited 21 July 2020 at 4:43PM
    You must start your own thread on here if you want help but ......

    I received 2 more letter for CST dated the 26th title “Unpaid Debt - Reminder Notice.” Stating they had now been instructed by Debt Recovery Plus, as the agent of Euro car Parks. New deadline of 10th July. 

    Silly CST, they have chosen the wrong entity to be instructed by ..... FOOLS ?
    DRP cannot instruct anyone .... not in this game
  • Coupon-mad
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    You must start your own thread on here if you want help but ...
    Noooooo please don't!  We are keeping all CST Law cases here in a group thread.

    ECP are not the landowner.  I doubt they own the car park.  Often a retailer does, so is it a retail car park?

    Wait for 2 x letters before claim then deny/dispute the charges and tell them about cause of action estoppel, like here:
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/77416368#Comment_77416368



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  • Apollo2020
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    Hi, I am a bit late to the party but since this is a group thread, I hope it is ok for me to mention that I have also received a LBC from CST Law, this time on behalf of Conkai Security Ltd (instructed by Debt Recovery Plus Limited, DRP) regarding a PCN dating from over four years ago. In fact, their initial letter did not even specify when or where the PCN was in relation to, but they have now sent a second letter including this information. Amusingly, this letter is dated to 3.5 weeks ago, even though I sent them my email requesting the missing information more recently than that date. Of course, they want payment or reply within 30 days of the date on the letter.

    Anyway, as per the advice in this thread and the Newbie Thread, I have sent an SAR to Conkai and informed CST Law that I have done so, requesting a 30-day hold on the case. Am I correct in thinking that is the correct course of action?

    Have any of you in this thread who followed this course of action heard back from either CST Law or their client? Or have they dropped the issue?
    Please could anyone advise 
    as to where I can email Conkai Parking for a SAR as I can't find the relevant email address 
    would it be? 
    info@conkaisecurity.co.uk
    conkaisecurity.co.uk

    I have received two LBC from CST Law on behalf of DRP dated the 24th of June 
    (30 Days later is 24 of July) 

    They arrived last week! 

    The 1st LBC had no attached paperwork
    The 2nd LBC had x2 forms asking for payment and financial details

    I am going to use the SAR template suggested here and 
    state I am seeking advise on paying debt using the wording in this thread/ in the SAR template
    CST law's email on the letters is 

    contact@cstlaw.co.uk
    There website does not work but domain name is registered 
    cstlaw.co.uk/

    Should I use those email addresses above to Conkai & CST Law and request a read receipet so I know they have got them?

    And I must do them today? i.e before Midnight?
    I will post the letters later today once I've hidden my details 
    Thank you



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