Neighbours sun room

princeofpounds

I don't think it has been made clear enough on the thread yet - boundaries on a title plan are only general boundaries; they are used to identify the 'true' boundary features on the ground that define the boundary (excluding rare things called determined boundaries, which are precisely measured). Those features can and do move, the classic example being an eroding river, but a long-misplaced boundary fence or wall can also qualify.

Yes, the OP has to find out where the boundary line on the title plan is, and check that it runs along these walls. But if the neighbour's sun room has been there long enough (and it looks like it's old) then it forms the boundary itself. The OP does not get to take it down, and the OP does not own the land underneath it any more.

Having said that, it is messy, and if you are both going to jointly construct an extension it would make a lot of sense to tidy it up in line with the other boundary features. The neighbour should not mind too much, as it's a tiny space.

lincroft1710

Does the boundary between the 2 houses continue level with the fence and neighbour's extension, or does it go back out level with your extension? Because if the former, your extension may be encroaching on their land

louise29_2

So I have been out tonight and had a better look can I add thus part of fence as covered in ivy so have only just realised that in fact the sun room extension is built onto the top of the fence, I'm no builder but the fact there sun room only goes out at the top and built to top of fence is surely not right, it's baffling me so when I see landlord I'm going to tell him I want to replace the fence as rather old and tatty and the kids next door have broke it all but how can we do thst when it's built on top of fence

Slithery

Is it your fence to replace? It might belong to next door.

louise29_2

Slithery said:

Is it your fence to replace? It might belong to next door.

This is something I'm going to have too find out the fence looks like it's mine as it matches mine all the way round my garden and all looks to be same age but obviously doesn't mean it's mine 

Ditzy_Mitzy

louise29_2 said:

So I have been out tonight and had a better look can I add thus part of fence as covered in ivy so have only just realised that in fact the sun room extension is built onto the top of the fence, I'm no builder but the fact there sun room only goes out at the top and built to top of fence is surely not right, it's baffling me so when I see landlord I'm going to tell him I want to replace the fence as rather old and tatty and the kids next door have broke it all but how can we do thst when it's built on top of fence

I thought that from the first photo - there does seem to be something about the construction of the sun room that suggests the fence panel is an integral part of the structure (eek).  The whole thing looks rather shoddy.  If there is ivy about then it's likely to grow up the side of the sun shed, if left unchecked, and pull it to pieces.  We had similar issues with our garage years ago, finally solved by eradicating the ivy. 

louise29_2

Ditzy_Mitzy said:

louise29_2 said:

So I have been out tonight and had a better look can I add thus part of fence as covered in ivy so have only just realised that in fact the sun room extension is built onto the top of the fence, I'm no builder but the fact there sun room only goes out at the top and built to top of fence is surely not right, it's baffling me so when I see landlord I'm going to tell him I want to replace the fence as rather old and tatty and the kids next door have broke it all but how can we do thst when it's built on top of fence

I thought that from the first photo - there does seem to be something about the construction of the sun room that suggests the fence panel is an integral part of the structure (eek).  The whole thing looks rather shoddy.  If there is ivy about then it's likely to grow up the side of the sun shed, if left unchecked, and pull it to pieces.  We had similar issues with our garage years ago, finally solved by eradicating the ivy. 

Yeah I've got rid of all the ivy that was there, when I moved in everything was shoddy about this house, think everything was DIY jobs and not very good ones at that hence why I've ignored outside of house in till now as been working on inside first now I'm on the outside I've obviously noticed this, workmen next door have already pulled down part of there fence to replace, but not the fence between us I'm definitely going to speak to the landlord