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Parking ticket - One Parking Solution Ltd help with Defence County Court

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  • SKT29
    SKT29 Posts: 29 Forumite
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    That you did earlier CM , thanks for the reminder...the newbies thread is excellent  and thanks for effort put into it.  :)
  • Scrapit
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    Do a witness statement* that says why you only put the words you did...i.e. because you know nothing about this alleged contractual breach and the Claimant has provided you only with (what?...spell out how little you know) but you now realise that what was intended as a request for further and better particulars has in fact bound you to that as your defence.  Say that you are a litigant in person who knew nothing about the court process and feels ambushed, but that you have much more that you intend to address.  There is good reason to allow the defence to be amended, not least due to the clear abuse of process of the parking firm adding £60 to a parking charge, which is double recovery, and due to the parking firm's hundreds of small print wording on their standard small signs having been described by a Judge at Lewes only last month as 'wholly unacceptable' and inadquate to bind anyone to a parking contract.


    * with the statement of truth as shown in the NEWBIES thread, above your signature & date.  A proper Witness Statement as per all the examples here.
    Point of note, i searched for the term " wholly unacceptable" in the judgement. I couldnt find it, but did find "I find this signage to be completely inadequate" and a "huge amount of words" if quoting.
  • KeithP
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    Scrapit said:
    Point of note, i searched for the term " wholly unacceptable" in the judgement. I couldnt find it, but did find "I find this signage to be completely inadequate" and a "huge amount of words" if quoting.
    But were you in the courtroom to hear what the judge actually said?
  • Scrapit
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    KeithP said:
    Scrapit said:
    Point of note, i searched for the term " wholly unacceptable" in the judgement. I couldnt find it, but did find "I find this signage to be completely inadequate" and a "huge amount of words" if quoting.
    But were you in the courtroom to hear what the judge actually said?
    Yeah, but i didnt listen at that point to be honest. Are you suggesting im incorrect in asuming that when quoting it would be best to have quotes which can be evidenced? If so say so for clarity.
  • KeithP
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    Scrapit said:
    KeithP said:
    Scrapit said:
    Point of note, i searched for the term " wholly unacceptable" in the judgement. I couldnt find it, but did find "I find this signage to be completely inadequate" and a "huge amount of words" if quoting.
    But were you in the courtroom to hear what the judge actually said?
    Yeah, but i didnt listen at that point to be honest. Are you suggesting im incorrect in asuming that when quoting it would be best to have quotes which can be evidenced? If so say so for clarity.
    I am suggesting that you were not in the courtroom.

    Whereas the poster that quoted the term 'wholly unacceptable' was there and was listening.
  • Scrapit
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    KeithP said:
    Scrapit said:
    KeithP said:
    Scrapit said:
    Point of note, i searched for the term " wholly unacceptable" in the judgement. I couldnt find it, but did find "I find this signage to be completely inadequate" and a "huge amount of words" if quoting.
    But were you in the courtroom to hear what the judge actually said?
    Yeah, but i didnt listen at that point to be honest. Are you suggesting im incorrect in asuming that when quoting it would be best to have quotes which can be evidenced? If so say so for clarity.
    I am suggesting that you were not in the courtroom.

    Whereas the poster that quoted the term 'wholly unacceptable' was there and was listening.
    So? The question remains. And referring to what somebody heard doesnt carry much weight in my opinion. Isnt giving the decision from the judge and using the judges words better than trying to get a court record?
  • KeithP
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    No, the question does not remain. Thanks for your interest.
  • Coupon-mad
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    I was there and he said that.  Honestly, this is splitting hairs again. 
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Scrapit
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    I was there and he said that.  Honestly, this is splitting hairs again. 
    Its attention to detail actually.
  • Scrapit
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    KeithP said:
    No, the question does not remain. Thanks for your interest.
    It does.
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