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Octopus Agile Tariff

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  • bristolleedsfan
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    edited 2 June 2020 at 1:00AM
    kaintxu said:
    MWT said:
    kaintxu said:
    Taking this into account, and with an even spread of energy ussage, and being able to put washing machine, dishwasher and dryer after 10pm, would it make sense to change to Agile? Since it´s only energy, do they have some cheap gas tariff so that you don´t loose all that you safe?
    Short answer is yes. Your mix of use is very similar to mine so it is highly likely that you will benefit from switching to Agile.
    For your gas you can pick from any of the gas tariffs they offer, currently the cheapest is probably this one:
    That price is for the Eastern region today, so your region may vary slightly from this.
    You can take just the gas from that tariff and Agile for your electricity. This is a popular combination and allows you to track the wholesale gas prices on a daily basis.




    Can I chance to any tariff for now? Also, how would I know if my smart meters work with them?
    Tracker Tariff does not require a Smart Meter to go on it, that would be best tariff to go on for those waiting for a Smart Meter to be fitted/changed to go on Agile tariff, sign up to any tariff then email Octopus to change to preferred Tariff


  • MWT
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    Tracker Tariff does not require a Smart Meter to go on it, that would be best tariff to go on for those waiting for a Smart Meter to be fitted/changed to go on Agile tariff, sign up to any tariff then email Octopus to change to preferred Tariff
    Agreed, move to Octopus however you prefer and once there, change to Tracker immediately then switch electric to Agile when you can.
    For the OP, do you know if your meters are SMETS1 or 2?
    If SMETS1 and they are branded 'Secure' then Octopus can probably use them.
    If SMETS2 then they should be OK as long as they were registered with the DCC by your previous supplier.

  • kaintxu
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    Tracker Tariff does not require a Smart Meter to go on it, that would be best tariff to go on for those waiting for a Smart Meter to be fitted/changed to go on Agile tariff, sign up to any tariff then email Octopus to change to preferred Tariff


    Why is Tracker Tariff the best to be changed to while waiting? Aren´t tracker ones usually more expensive?
  • kaintxu
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    MWT said:
    however you prefer and once there, change to Tracker immediately then switch electric to Agile when you can. 
    For the OP, do you know if your meters are SMETS1 or 2?
    If SMETS1 and they are branded 'Secure' then Octopus can probably use them.
    If SMETS2 then they should be OK as long as they were registered with the DCC by your previous supplier.

    No idea, they are whatever Scottish Gas was installing last year.
  • MWT
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    kaintxu said:
    Why is Tracker Tariff the best to be changed to while waiting? Aren´t tracker ones usually more expensive?
    Tracker most closely approximates to the Agile tariff, but doesn't require a smart meter so it is immediately available, and no, it isn't more expensive than the fixed or variable tariffs at Octopus, especially right now when there is over-supply of energy.
    Over a longer period of time it is of course possible for the Tracker to be more expensive than a fixed tariff taken out a few months ago, but if moving to Octopus you should find the tracker will be cheaper than any currently available tariff as the others price the uncertainty of the future into their rate.
    ... but, always remember that Octopus has no exit fees so if prices move in a direction you don't like then you can jump to a fixed or variable tariff if you prefer...
  • MWT
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    edited 2 June 2020 at 11:59AM
    kaintxu said:
    No idea, they are whatever Scottish Gas was installing last year.
    If you want to take a look and tell us what the make/model number is others on here can be more helpful, but if it they were installed after the first quarter of last year there is a good chance they are SMETS2, if they were installed very early last year they may be SMETS1.

  • bristolleedsfan
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    edited 2 June 2020 at 1:11PM
    British Gas Smart Meters are made by a company called Trilliant I was told by somebody yesterday, according to this blog a different brand than Secure will not work  https://octopus.energy/help-and-faqs/categories/meters/smart-meter/


  • I’ve been in contact with Octopus regarding my SMETS1 meter (Elster AS300P) and have been advised by their smart team that enrolment and adoption has started for some accounts.

    While only Secure ones work now, hopefully soon others will start working!
  • kaintxu
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    edited 2 June 2020 at 1:51PM
    MWT said:
    kaintxu said:
    No idea, they are whatever Scottish Gas was installing last year.
    If you want to take a look and tell us what the make/model number is others on here can be more helpful, but if it they were installed after the first quarter of last year there is a good chance they are SMETS2, if they were installed very early last year they may be SMETS1.

    They were install in June last year I think. The brand is Landis+Gyr E470 and has another trillian small box near it. I think while some E470 are SMETS2, this one might not be.
  • kaintxu
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    edited 2 June 2020 at 1:36PM
    Are Octopus installing smart meters themselves?

    I ask this, as if a smart metter is needed for the agile tariff, and mine does not work with them and they are not installing, there aint much point switching to them now right?
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