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  • Snakes_Belly
    Snakes_Belly Posts: 3,704 Forumite
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    edited 22 October 2020 at 8:26AM
    Turnip00 said:
    Too much time is spent on trying to extract information from the poster especially what the actual transgression is, the car park, the PPC and where they are in the process.

    There are posters actually talking about counterclaims before they have given any consideration to how they will argue the case.  
    Guilty of that one. 

    I've read through this whole thread and feel alot of these posts apply to myself, whether aimed or not. 
    I think I understand the frustration.  
    For you guys helping there's a constant barrage to deal with. For someone like myself though, it's just one case, one issue, so asking that random question doesn't seem like such a big thing. 
    I'm sure everyone on here greatly appreciates all the help and advice you give, I know I certainly do. ( not keen on the sarcasm if I'm honest).
    I assume that I'm in the same boat as most people who come looking for help, no legal training,  no understanding of courts etc, daunted and confused by the mass of information required, and also a life to get on with as we all do. 
    Ultimately,  I feel we are all after the same goal, fighting for what's right and not being bullied by the big boys. 
    This was an observation not a criticism. I have been there myself fighting the same company as you and made the same mistakes along the way. 

    You really need to drill down to the main issues. Take what they are saying you have done (the transgression) and look to how you can argue this. 

    The transgressions involve a breach of contract. The contract is formed by the signage. You will need to demonstrate that the signage is inadequate (it probably is inadequate). Is the signage Excel or VCS?
     
    There is also the abuse of process issue and if you have letters from DRP and Zenith that should be very easy to prove as they work on a no collection, no fee basis. They cannot argue that one as there is proof of this.   

    There are also issues with the landowner contract.  Sounds like an Excel contract but a claim from VCS. Separate entities. 
      




    Nolite te bast--des carborundorum.
  • Snakes_Belly
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    Further to the above. I am not saying that you should not counterclaim at some stage. You could also be granted costs for unreasonable behaviour but you need to work on the case first.

    Nolite te bast--des carborundorum.
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,591 Forumite
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    If you think this forum is bad, you should try some of the eBay fora.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 24,602 Forumite
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    D_P_Dance said:
    If you think this forum is bad, you should try some of the eBay fora.
    I tried Abay, Bbay, Cbay and Dbay and then gave up
  • Scrapit
    Scrapit Posts: 2,304 Forumite
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    All posters on here are equal. Any one ignorant to that is the problem. Sadly not many here see it that way but it will get through to them eventually....possibly.
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,591 Forumite
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    All posters on here are equal. 

    In what way, education, talent, wealth, ambition, class?  please amplify, 

    any one ignorant to that is the problem. 

    What does that mean? 








    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Le_Kirk said:
    D_P_Dance said:
    If you think this forum is bad, you should try some of the eBay fora.
    I tried Abay, Bbay, Cbay and Dbay and then gave up
    I was going to try Fbay once, but then saw the amount of expletives on it so gave up.
  • Scrapit
    Scrapit Posts: 2,304 Forumite
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    D_P_Dance said:
    All posters on here are equal. 

    In what way, education, talent, wealth, ambition, class?  please amplify, 

    any one ignorant to that is the problem. 

    What does that mean? 








    What parts are you struggling with?
     All.
    Posters.
    Are.
    Equal. 
    All of them. 
    Really not that hard to comprehend, or shouldn't be.
    People that don't understand that are the problem, some of which are long established posters.
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    Scrapit said:
    D_P_Dance said:
    All posters on here are equal. 

    In what way, education, talent, wealth, ambition, class?  please amplify, 

    any one ignorant to that is the problem. 

    What does that mean? 








    What parts are you struggling with?
     All.
    Posters.
    Are.
    Equal. 
    All of them. 
    Really not that hard to comprehend, or shouldn't be.
    People that don't understand that are the problem, some of which are long established posters.
    Your rudeness does not deserve an answer
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