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  • JoeyKez
    JoeyKez Posts: 11 Forumite
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    kelt99 said:
    ACG said:
    kelt99 said:
    I’ve had a DIP but not a final offer. Does the rate that I’ve been offered still stand??
    No. It is only if you have a full mortgage offer. 
    Just spoke to my mortgage broker and he tells me mines locked in … so that’s good news for me 
    Excellent work! Had you received your offer by then? My MA has said we have to go with the new rates, despite us having expected to receive our offer last Friday (when they pulled it). I wonder if that would be taken into consideration.
  • ACG
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    kelt99 said:
    ACG said:
    kelt99 said:
    I’ve had a DIP but not a final offer. Does the rate that I’ve been offered still stand??
    No. It is only if you have a full mortgage offer. 
    Just spoke to my mortgage broker and he tells me mines locked in … so that’s good news for me 
    If you have a full mortgage offer, your rate is safe but not at DIP stage. 
    Unless your broker gave you the new rates rather than the rates before the products were pulled last week? 
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • kelt99
    kelt99 Posts: 28 Forumite
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    ACG said:
    kelt99 said:
    ACG said:
    kelt99 said:
    I’ve had a DIP but not a final offer. Does the rate that I’ve been offered still stand??
    No. It is only if you have a full mortgage offer. 
    Just spoke to my mortgage broker and he tells me mines locked in … so that’s good news for me 
    If you have a full mortgage offer, your rate is safe but not at DIP stage. 
    Unless your broker gave you the new rates rather than the rates before the products were pulled last week? 
    Nope..
    Just dip 5 weeks ago, just had work references ready for valuation. 
    Literally messaged by broker and he said the offer still stands , at 5.8% 
  • kelt99
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    JoeyKez said:
    kelt99 said:
    ACG said:
    kelt99 said:
    I’ve had a DIP but not a final offer. Does the rate that I’ve been offered still stand??
    No. It is only if you have a full mortgage offer. 
    Just spoke to my mortgage broker and he tells me mines locked in … so that’s good news for me 
    Excellent work! Had you received your offer by then? My MA has said we have to go with the new rates, despite us having expected to receive our offer last Friday (when they pulled it). I wonder if that would be taken into consideration.
    That’s rubbish! I don’t know where I stand then. I’m only going by what my mortgage broker has told me. He said my offer is locked in?? Only at DIP Not sure how or why but I’ve asked him to double check! 
  • JoeyKez
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    Just noticed the products have been released on their website. They look pretty high!
  • ACG
    ACG Posts: 24,598 Forumite
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    kelt99 said:
    ACG said:
    kelt99 said:
    ACG said:
    kelt99 said:
    I’ve had a DIP but not a final offer. Does the rate that I’ve been offered still stand??
    No. It is only if you have a full mortgage offer. 
    Just spoke to my mortgage broker and he tells me mines locked in … so that’s good news for me 
    If you have a full mortgage offer, your rate is safe but not at DIP stage. 
    Unless your broker gave you the new rates rather than the rates before the products were pulled last week? 
    Nope..
    Just dip 5 weeks ago, just had work references ready for valuation. 
    Literally messaged by broker and he said the offer still stands , at 5.8% 
    I am pretty sure your broker is wrong. 
    I have emails from Bluestone and spoken to my account manager yesterday and an underwriter this morning, all of which state if you have not yet got an offer you have to choose a new product. I get on very well with the guys at Bluestone (I was one of the very first brokers to use them, I have been for nights out with their directors), I cant see how you would get something nobody else is. In fact I am fairly sure it would be a breach of TCF rules set out by the FCA. 
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • kelt99
    kelt99 Posts: 28 Forumite
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    ACG said:
    kelt99 said:
    ACG said:
    kelt99 said:
    ACG said:
    kelt99 said:
    I’ve had a DIP but not a final offer. Does the rate that I’ve been offered still stand??
    No. It is only if you have a full mortgage offer. 
    Just spoke to my mortgage broker and he tells me mines locked in … so that’s good news for me 
    If you have a full mortgage offer, your rate is safe but not at DIP stage. 
    Unless your broker gave you the new rates rather than the rates before the products were pulled last week? 
    Nope..
    Just dip 5 weeks ago, just had work references ready for valuation. 
    Literally messaged by broker and he said the offer still stands , at 5.8% 
    I am pretty sure your broker is wrong. 
    I have emails from Bluestone and spoken to my account manager yesterday and an underwriter this morning, all of which state if you have not yet got an offer you have to choose a new product. I get on very well with the guys at Bluestone (I was one of the very first brokers to use them, I have been for nights out with their directors), I cant see how you would get something nobody else is. In fact I am fairly sure it would be a breach of TCF rules set out by the FCA. 
    Ok I’ve just spoke to my mortgage broker and he’s confirmed the offer won’t change, if he’s wrong he hasn’t owned up to it yet and I’ve asked several times! He spoke to bluestone just this morning! 
    Not sure that having ‘nights out’ with the directors makes any difference 😂
    im going with what  my mortgage broker is telling me (no offence)… feel like customers should go with the advice of their own brokers because each case is different. 
    In my case mines a remortgage, not a brand new mortgage deal. If I don't remortgage I’l stay with who I am.. no home lost, but will be stuck on SVR thats rubbish! 

  • JoeyKez
    JoeyKez Posts: 11 Forumite
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    Thanks @ACG for your advice to date. I’m currently trying to see if we can do anything with these new rates. Do you know how easy it would be to increase the term time of the mortgage? I will make sure to ask my MA but I got the impression Bluestone look at things a little differently then high street lenders with regards to term time.
  • ACG
    ACG Posts: 24,598 Forumite
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    kelt99 said:
    ACG said:
    kelt99 said:
    ACG said:
    kelt99 said:
    ACG said:
    kelt99 said:
    I’ve had a DIP but not a final offer. Does the rate that I’ve been offered still stand??
    No. It is only if you have a full mortgage offer. 
    Just spoke to my mortgage broker and he tells me mines locked in … so that’s good news for me 
    If you have a full mortgage offer, your rate is safe but not at DIP stage. 
    Unless your broker gave you the new rates rather than the rates before the products were pulled last week? 
    Nope..
    Just dip 5 weeks ago, just had work references ready for valuation. 
    Literally messaged by broker and he said the offer still stands , at 5.8% 
    I am pretty sure your broker is wrong. 
    I have emails from Bluestone and spoken to my account manager yesterday and an underwriter this morning, all of which state if you have not yet got an offer you have to choose a new product. I get on very well with the guys at Bluestone (I was one of the very first brokers to use them, I have been for nights out with their directors), I cant see how you would get something nobody else is. In fact I am fairly sure it would be a breach of TCF rules set out by the FCA. 
    Ok I’ve just spoke to my mortgage broker and he’s confirmed the offer won’t change, if he’s wrong he hasn’t owned up to it yet and I’ve asked several times! He spoke to bluestone just this morning! 
    Not sure that having ‘nights out’ with the directors makes any difference 😂
    im going with what  my mortgage broker is telling me (no offence)… feel like customers should go with the advice of their own brokers because each case is different. 
    In my case mines a remortgage, not a brand new mortgage deal. If I don't remortgage I’l stay with who I am.. no home lost, but will be stuck on SVR thats rubbish! 

    100% get it, you listen to to your broker. I genuinely hope you complete on the rate you have and you can come back on here are prove me wrong. 

    The point I was trying to make is that I use Bluestone a lot, I know their processes well etc so I am fairly confident what I am saying is right. But like you say, you stick with what your broker is saying. There is nothing worse than getting 2 conflicting stories. 
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • ACG
    ACG Posts: 24,598 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper I've helped Parliament
    JoeyKez said:
    Thanks @ACG for your advice to date. I’m currently trying to see if we can do anything with these new rates. Do you know how easy it would be to increase the term time of the mortgage? I will make sure to ask my MA but I got the impression Bluestone look at things a little differently then high street lenders with regards to term time.
    I have had a call from an underwriter today about 2 cases I have with them. 
    They told me they both still pass affordability on the new products so we are all good. They have generated a new illustrations and nothing more to do. 

    I suspect if I wanted to change the term I could have done without a problem, assuming it still fits affordability and retirement ages etc. 
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
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