Corona-virus - How worried are you?

50Twuncle

Pollycat said:

Gers said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

Gers said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

The dis-benefits of being remote, on the other hand, are the risk that this virus might cause a lower level of facilities to happen and then there simply wouldn't be enough facilities there. In a city it doesnt matter if a facility, or two or a dozen vanishes and the reason is because there are "plenty more where that came from". In a remote place, even a few facilities vanishing could mean the difference between "viable to live in" and "too small to live in".

I don't understand what you mean by 'this virus might cause a lower level of facilities to happen' - how do facilities happen??

Anyway latest headline

Coronavirus confirmed as pandemic

Lower level of facilities comes from facilities shutting for the duration - and maybe not opening again afterwards as normal (ie because their finances got hit too hard to do so).

Thank goodness the Government does seem to understand that - and is giving a certain level of help to ensure we do retain our facilities - our businesses, etc - and "get back to normal" once this is over. But I do still have a concern some facilities may vanish for good - and with that "our Lives as we know them". An area has to be a pretty large town or a city to be "safe" for retaining enough facilities if the facilities it has get hit too hard by this illness.

Ah! You mean 'businesses'. I can envisage some closing for the duration but not for ever. My nearest town, eight miles from my home, is lively and robust. 

Think you're being rather dramatic or scaremongering. Not sure which. 

I think there's a lot of dramatics & scaremongering generally.

Not to mention panic.

Are you honestly surprised that many people are panicking ?

Most of us - have never faced anything like this before - with no control over our futures

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

What makes it worse is the government are clearly not prepared - see https://111.nhs.uk/emergency-prescription  and use the link - it tells me that the service is not running in my area - good job that I don't need anything  !

Then look at Italy and all that I see is UK in a few days time  - SCAREY TIMES AHEAD

Pollycat

50Twuncle said:

Pollycat said:

Gers said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

Gers said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

The dis-benefits of being remote, on the other hand, are the risk that this virus might cause a lower level of facilities to happen and then there simply wouldn't be enough facilities there. In a city it doesnt matter if a facility, or two or a dozen vanishes and the reason is because there are "plenty more where that came from". In a remote place, even a few facilities vanishing could mean the difference between "viable to live in" and "too small to live in".

I don't understand what you mean by 'this virus might cause a lower level of facilities to happen' - how do facilities happen??

Anyway latest headline

Coronavirus confirmed as pandemic

Lower level of facilities comes from facilities shutting for the duration - and maybe not opening again afterwards as normal (ie because their finances got hit too hard to do so).

Thank goodness the Government does seem to understand that - and is giving a certain level of help to ensure we do retain our facilities - our businesses, etc - and "get back to normal" once this is over. But I do still have a concern some facilities may vanish for good - and with that "our Lives as we know them". An area has to be a pretty large town or a city to be "safe" for retaining enough facilities if the facilities it has get hit too hard by this illness.

Ah! You mean 'businesses'. I can envisage some closing for the duration but not for ever. My nearest town, eight miles from my home, is lively and robust. 

Think you're being rather dramatic or scaremongering. Not sure which. 

I think there's a lot of dramatics & scaremongering generally.

Not to mention panic.

Are you honestly surprised that many people are panicking ?

Most of us - have never faced anything like this before - with no control over our futures

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

Given human nature, no, I'm not surprised that people are panicking.

However...

Do you think people are acting sensibly when they're walking out of Tesco with 4 trollies of toilet rolls through panic?

Walking into hospitals and removing hand wash?

There's is a difference between genuine worry, concern, anxiety - call it what you will - because you may be in a job where you could be exposed to the virus, or are in the age group that is most at risk and have underlying health issues, or you have family in that category and blind, baseless panic.

Do you really think panicking is going to make things better?

Stop you from contracting the virus?

50Twuncle

Pollycat said:

50Twuncle said:

Pollycat said:

Gers said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

Gers said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

The dis-benefits of being remote, on the other hand, are the risk that this virus might cause a lower level of facilities to happen and then there simply wouldn't be enough facilities there. In a city it doesnt matter if a facility, or two or a dozen vanishes and the reason is because there are "plenty more where that came from". In a remote place, even a few facilities vanishing could mean the difference between "viable to live in" and "too small to live in".

I don't understand what you mean by 'this virus might cause a lower level of facilities to happen' - how do facilities happen??

Anyway latest headline

Coronavirus confirmed as pandemic

Lower level of facilities comes from facilities shutting for the duration - and maybe not opening again afterwards as normal (ie because their finances got hit too hard to do so).

Thank goodness the Government does seem to understand that - and is giving a certain level of help to ensure we do retain our facilities - our businesses, etc - and "get back to normal" once this is over. But I do still have a concern some facilities may vanish for good - and with that "our Lives as we know them". An area has to be a pretty large town or a city to be "safe" for retaining enough facilities if the facilities it has get hit too hard by this illness.

Ah! You mean 'businesses'. I can envisage some closing for the duration but not for ever. My nearest town, eight miles from my home, is lively and robust. 

Think you're being rather dramatic or scaremongering. Not sure which. 

I think there's a lot of dramatics & scaremongering generally.

Not to mention panic.

Are you honestly surprised that many people are panicking ?

Most of us - have never faced anything like this before - with no control over our futures

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

Given human nature, no, I'm not surprised that people are panicking.

However...

Do you think people are acting sensibly when they're walking out of Tesco with 4 trollies of toilet rolls through panic?

Walking into hospitals and removing hand wash?

There's is a difference between genuine worry, concern, anxiety - call it what you will - because you may be in a job where you could be exposed to the virus, or are in the age group that is most at risk and have underlying health issues, or you have family in that category and blind, baseless panic.

Do you really think panicking is going to make things better?

Stop you from contracting the virus?

No - but its human nature - to be scared of running out of things

Pollycat

50Twuncle said:

Pollycat said:

50Twuncle said:

Pollycat said:

Gers said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

Gers said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

The dis-benefits of being remote, on the other hand, are the risk that this virus might cause a lower level of facilities to happen and then there simply wouldn't be enough facilities there. In a city it doesnt matter if a facility, or two or a dozen vanishes and the reason is because there are "plenty more where that came from". In a remote place, even a few facilities vanishing could mean the difference between "viable to live in" and "too small to live in".

I don't understand what you mean by 'this virus might cause a lower level of facilities to happen' - how do facilities happen??

Anyway latest headline

Coronavirus confirmed as pandemic

Lower level of facilities comes from facilities shutting for the duration - and maybe not opening again afterwards as normal (ie because their finances got hit too hard to do so).

Thank goodness the Government does seem to understand that - and is giving a certain level of help to ensure we do retain our facilities - our businesses, etc - and "get back to normal" once this is over. But I do still have a concern some facilities may vanish for good - and with that "our Lives as we know them". An area has to be a pretty large town or a city to be "safe" for retaining enough facilities if the facilities it has get hit too hard by this illness.

Ah! You mean 'businesses'. I can envisage some closing for the duration but not for ever. My nearest town, eight miles from my home, is lively and robust. 

Think you're being rather dramatic or scaremongering. Not sure which. 

I think there's a lot of dramatics & scaremongering generally.

Not to mention panic.

Are you honestly surprised that many people are panicking ?

Most of us - have never faced anything like this before - with no control over our futures

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

Given human nature, no, I'm not surprised that people are panicking.

However...

Do you think people are acting sensibly when they're walking out of Tesco with 4 trollies of toilet rolls through panic?

Walking into hospitals and removing hand wash?

There's is a difference between genuine worry, concern, anxiety - call it what you will - because you may be in a job where you could be exposed to the virus, or are in the age group that is most at risk and have underlying health issues, or you have family in that category and blind, baseless panic.

Do you really think panicking is going to make things better?

Stop you from contracting the virus?

No - but its human nature - to be scared of running out of things

So you fill your spare room with toilet rolls, handwash, dried pasta actually creating a shortage?

Buy masks that don't work?

Really?

I don't think that is human nature.

I think it's crass stupidity and selfishness.

50Twuncle

Pollycat said:

50Twuncle said:

Pollycat said:

50Twuncle said:

Pollycat said:

Gers said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

Gers said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

The dis-benefits of being remote, on the other hand, are the risk that this virus might cause a lower level of facilities to happen and then there simply wouldn't be enough facilities there. In a city it doesnt matter if a facility, or two or a dozen vanishes and the reason is because there are "plenty more where that came from". In a remote place, even a few facilities vanishing could mean the difference between "viable to live in" and "too small to live in".

I don't understand what you mean by 'this virus might cause a lower level of facilities to happen' - how do facilities happen??

Anyway latest headline

Coronavirus confirmed as pandemic

Lower level of facilities comes from facilities shutting for the duration - and maybe not opening again afterwards as normal (ie because their finances got hit too hard to do so).

Thank goodness the Government does seem to understand that - and is giving a certain level of help to ensure we do retain our facilities - our businesses, etc - and "get back to normal" once this is over. But I do still have a concern some facilities may vanish for good - and with that "our Lives as we know them". An area has to be a pretty large town or a city to be "safe" for retaining enough facilities if the facilities it has get hit too hard by this illness.

Ah! You mean 'businesses'. I can envisage some closing for the duration but not for ever. My nearest town, eight miles from my home, is lively and robust. 

Think you're being rather dramatic or scaremongering. Not sure which. 

I think there's a lot of dramatics & scaremongering generally.

Not to mention panic.

Are you honestly surprised that many people are panicking ?

Most of us - have never faced anything like this before - with no control over our futures

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

Given human nature, no, I'm not surprised that people are panicking.

However...

Do you think people are acting sensibly when they're walking out of Tesco with 4 trollies of toilet rolls through panic?

Walking into hospitals and removing hand wash?

There's is a difference between genuine worry, concern, anxiety - call it what you will - because you may be in a job where you could be exposed to the virus, or are in the age group that is most at risk and have underlying health issues, or you have family in that category and blind, baseless panic.

Do you really think panicking is going to make things better?

Stop you from contracting the virus?

No - but its human nature - to be scared of running out of things

So you fill your spare room with toilet rolls, handwash, dried pasta actually creating a shortage?

Buy masks that don't work?

Really?

I don't think that is human nature.

I think it's crass stupidity and selfishness.

Squirrels do the same in autumn with nuts
And no I don't

Pollycat

50Twuncle said:

Pollycat said:

50Twuncle said:

Pollycat said:

50Twuncle said:

Pollycat said:

Gers said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

Gers said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

The dis-benefits of being remote, on the other hand, are the risk that this virus might cause a lower level of facilities to happen and then there simply wouldn't be enough facilities there. In a city it doesnt matter if a facility, or two or a dozen vanishes and the reason is because there are "plenty more where that came from". In a remote place, even a few facilities vanishing could mean the difference between "viable to live in" and "too small to live in".

I don't understand what you mean by 'this virus might cause a lower level of facilities to happen' - how do facilities happen??

Anyway latest headline

Coronavirus confirmed as pandemic

Lower level of facilities comes from facilities shutting for the duration - and maybe not opening again afterwards as normal (ie because their finances got hit too hard to do so).

Thank goodness the Government does seem to understand that - and is giving a certain level of help to ensure we do retain our facilities - our businesses, etc - and "get back to normal" once this is over. But I do still have a concern some facilities may vanish for good - and with that "our Lives as we know them". An area has to be a pretty large town or a city to be "safe" for retaining enough facilities if the facilities it has get hit too hard by this illness.

Ah! You mean 'businesses'. I can envisage some closing for the duration but not for ever. My nearest town, eight miles from my home, is lively and robust. 

Think you're being rather dramatic or scaremongering. Not sure which. 

I think there's a lot of dramatics & scaremongering generally.

Not to mention panic.

Are you honestly surprised that many people are panicking ?

Most of us - have never faced anything like this before - with no control over our futures

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

Given human nature, no, I'm not surprised that people are panicking.

However...

Do you think people are acting sensibly when they're walking out of Tesco with 4 trollies of toilet rolls through panic?

Walking into hospitals and removing hand wash?

There's is a difference between genuine worry, concern, anxiety - call it what you will - because you may be in a job where you could be exposed to the virus, or are in the age group that is most at risk and have underlying health issues, or you have family in that category and blind, baseless panic.

Do you really think panicking is going to make things better?

Stop you from contracting the virus?

No - but its human nature - to be scared of running out of things

So you fill your spare room with toilet rolls, handwash, dried pasta actually creating a shortage?

Buy masks that don't work?

Really?

I don't think that is human nature.

I think it's crass stupidity and selfishness.

Squirrels do the same on autumn with nuts

What?

Panic buy in Tesco? LOL

Are you seriously attempting to compare squirrel nature with human nature?

I've just noticed your signature:

We're all going to die
Make it quick

Says it all, really.

Gers

50Twuncle said:

Pollycat said:

50Twuncle said:

Pollycat said:

50Twuncle said:

Pollycat said:

Gers said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

Gers said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

The dis-benefits of being remote, on the other hand, are the risk that this virus might cause a lower level of facilities to happen and then there simply wouldn't be enough facilities there. In a city it doesnt matter if a facility, or two or a dozen vanishes and the reason is because there are "plenty more where that came from". In a remote place, even a few facilities vanishing could mean the difference between "viable to live in" and "too small to live in".

I don't understand what you mean by 'this virus might cause a lower level of facilities to happen' - how do facilities happen??

Anyway latest headline

Coronavirus confirmed as pandemic

Lower level of facilities comes from facilities shutting for the duration - and maybe not opening again afterwards as normal (ie because their finances got hit too hard to do so).

Thank goodness the Government does seem to understand that - and is giving a certain level of help to ensure we do retain our facilities - our businesses, etc - and "get back to normal" once this is over. But I do still have a concern some facilities may vanish for good - and with that "our Lives as we know them". An area has to be a pretty large town or a city to be "safe" for retaining enough facilities if the facilities it has get hit too hard by this illness.

Ah! You mean 'businesses'. I can envisage some closing for the duration but not for ever. My nearest town, eight miles from my home, is lively and robust. 

Think you're being rather dramatic or scaremongering. Not sure which. 

I think there's a lot of dramatics & scaremongering generally.

Not to mention panic.

Are you honestly surprised that many people are panicking ?

Most of us - have never faced anything like this before - with no control over our futures

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

Given human nature, no, I'm not surprised that people are panicking.

However...

Do you think people are acting sensibly when they're walking out of Tesco with 4 trollies of toilet rolls through panic?

Walking into hospitals and removing hand wash?

There's is a difference between genuine worry, concern, anxiety - call it what you will - because you may be in a job where you could be exposed to the virus, or are in the age group that is most at risk and have underlying health issues, or you have family in that category and blind, baseless panic.

Do you really think panicking is going to make things better?

Stop you from contracting the virus?

No - but its human nature - to be scared of running out of things

So you fill your spare room with toilet rolls, handwash, dried pasta actually creating a shortage?

Buy masks that don't work?

Really?

I don't think that is human nature.

I think it's crass stupidity and selfishness.

Squirrels do the same in autumn with nuts
And no I don't

Squirrels forget where they stashed 90% of their nuts so it's pointless - as is panic buying.

There's a difference between being overly-dramatic and worrying about a situation.  And it has happened before, I remember the mass hysteria when AIDS started.  Doom, gloom and death all round, yes, people sadly died but no, the wholesale death of millions didn't happen.

If you catch the virus and die (mostly unlikely) then you'll have no need of hundreds of loo rolls.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/business-51823128/coronavirus-don-t-panic-be-community-minded-says-loo-roll-boss 

Keep calm and stop over-buying!

pickledonionspaceraider

I come on this site most days, but have been off as I have been unwell. Chest tighteness, dizziness, sore throat, fever, aching all over, just basicaly fluey or how you feel when a bad chest infection comes on 

Tuesday evening I started feeing unwell and what I have experienced first hand, in the last few days has made me realise how unprepared the NHS are...and if they can ever be prepared for something with the potential to exponentially grow

Wednesday morning I rang 111 for advice. I was on hold for over an hour, and had a quick phone triage with a health practitioner.  She was mainly interested in 'have you been in contact with any confirmed cases of CV?' - So I told her no, however I do work for a large organisation and have been in meetings with people from all over the country in the last week- one of which there was a delegate sat there coughing his head off (without covering his bloody mouth!).

Three hours later, a doctor called me, asked me about my symptoms, but the main question again was 'have you been in contact with any confirmed cases of CV?' - and no I haven't - that's the fact. As this was the case he said that they would not be doing a test, as the rules for how many tests they do, have changed. I was told to send photos and videos of my symptoms and then told I have 'a virus' and to self isolate 'just in case'.  

Then another doctor called me, and said he was sending me antibiotic prescription, 'just in case'. I queried that AFAIK, antibiotics don't work on a virus (they are for infections?) bt I was told they need to cover all bases. Hmmm.  I am not saying I have CV, but I am saying I have many of the symptoms of it and the professionals who haven't examined me face to face, they don't know either

Since then, no one else has made contact with me.  But then they don't need to.  I am good at self care. I was told to take paracetamol, drink plenty,  and stay away from everyone and make contact with them if anything gets worse.

My concern is, they have seemingly slowed down the tests they are offering. But cases are on the rise daily.
We do not know now, who has it, and who don't - but the statistics are not telling us the reality. We don't know who is unknowingly affected

Everyone is supposed to be pulling together, but unfortunately Boris is talking like we are in an Enid Blyton story.  Many are just  pulling for themselves - and over buying what they think they may need in future, not what they need today and tomorrow and leaving nothing for those who need it now. Paracetamol don't last long if you are taking it every four hours

Anyway, just try and look after yourselves x

pickledonionspaceraider

Pollycat said:

Gers said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

Gers said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

The dis-benefits of being remote, on the other hand, are the risk that this virus might cause a lower level of facilities to happen and then there simply wouldn't be enough facilities there. In a city it doesnt matter if a facility, or two or a dozen vanishes and the reason is because there are "plenty more where that came from". In a remote place, even a few facilities vanishing could mean the difference between "viable to live in" and "too small to live in".

I don't understand what you mean by 'this virus might cause a lower level of facilities to happen' - how do facilities happen??

Anyway latest headline

Coronavirus confirmed as pandemic

Lower level of facilities comes from facilities shutting for the duration - and maybe not opening again afterwards as normal (ie because their finances got hit too hard to do so).

Thank goodness the Government does seem to understand that - and is giving a certain level of help to ensure we do retain our facilities - our businesses, etc - and "get back to normal" once this is over. But I do still have a concern some facilities may vanish for good - and with that "our Lives as we know them". An area has to be a pretty large town or a city to be "safe" for retaining enough facilities if the facilities it has get hit too hard by this illness.

Ah! You mean 'businesses'. I can envisage some closing for the duration but not for ever. My nearest town, eight miles from my home, is lively and robust. 

Think you're being rather dramatic or scaremongering. Not sure which. 

I think there's a lot of dramatics & scaremongering generally.

Not to mention panic.

Are you honestly surprised that many people are panicking ?

Most of us - have never faced anything like this before - with no control over our futures

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

Given human nature, no, I'm not surprised that people are panicking.

However...

Do you think people are acting sensibly when they're walking out of Tesco with 4 trollies of toilet rolls through panic?

Walking into hospitals and removing hand wash?

There's is a difference between genuine worry, concern, anxiety - call it what you will - because you may be in a job where you could be exposed to the virus, or are in the age group that is most at risk and have underlying health issues, or you have family in that category and blind, baseless panic.

Do you really think panicking is going to make things better?

Stop you from contracting the virus?

No - but its human nature - to be scared of running out of things

So you fill your spare room with toilet rolls, handwash, dried pasta actually creating a shortage?

Buy masks that don't work?

Really?

I don't think that is human nature.

I think it's crass stupidity and selfishness.

Squirrels do the same in autumn with nuts
And no I don't

Squirrels forget where they stashed 90% of their nuts so it's pointless - as is panic buying.

There's a difference between being overly-dramatic and worrying about a situation.  And it has happened before, I remember the mass hysteria when AIDS started.  Doom, gloom and death all round, yes, people sadly died but no, the wholesale death of millions didn't happen.

If you catch the virus and die (mostly unlikely) then you'll have no need of hundreds of loo rolls.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/business-51823128/coronavirus-don-t-panic-be-community-minded-says-loo-roll-boss 

Keep calm and stop over-buying!

Yes I remember the doom and gloom when HIV / Aids came out.  Unless you had a blood transfusion, you were pretty much able to stop yourself from getting it, if you practiced safe sex / didn't share needles etc

I agree this panic buying is well out of hand. WELL out of hand. No one will admit to it though wil they. There is obviously a huge number of people doing it, but everyones pretty silent or condeming it

50Twuncle

I was wondering how remote tribes  etc would  cope with zero Immunity ?