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  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,368 Forumite
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    I realise no one knows the answer at this point, just sounding out thoughts.
    There is no answer. Depends how good your Defence, Witness Statements and evidence are, how good the Claimant's case, Witness Statement and evidence are.  Good cases have lost and bad cases have won. Check out 'Judge Bingo'.  Litigation carries risks - for both parties. I'm sure you're no further forward.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Redx
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    edited 17 January 2021 at 8:44PM
    VRM , Vehicle Registration Mark , the characters on the so called number plate , that is the VRM for the vehicle and captured by cameras

    Speculation on what a judge might day is foolish , it's their opinion , but even judges have difference of opinions , so I would advise you to stop speculating , it does no good at all. Over analysis of any topic is counter productive

    Note , Lord Toulson disagreed in the Beavis case with the other Supreme court judges , but the majority ruled in favour of Parking Eye , so even judges disagree amongst themselves

    Argue what you like , any scenario is possible , put the claimant to strict proof , as they are required to do , it's your job to cast doubt on their case , all topics
  • Coupon-mad
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    What you describe is usually found in favour of the consumer - hope that helps.  Don't worry.  Well worth fighting.
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  • Jimsnap
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    What you describe is usually found in favour of the consumer - hope that helps.  Don't worry.  Well worth fighting.
    Thanks, that's what I was hoping for, a bit of encouragement. I received the claim form on Friday, it's gone up to £246 now.
    Interestingly they say on it that I agreed to pay within 28 days but did not. that's not true, I never agreed to pay at all.
  • Redx
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    edited 17 January 2021 at 10:55PM
    If that is for one PCN , they added spurious charges , of say £60 , which you object to , as shown in other threads on here

    A typical loss is £200 or less in court , if only allowed charges are given , typically £75 on top of the pcn their greed could be their undoing

    If you win , you pay nothing
  • KeithP
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    Jimsnap said:
    I received the claim form on Friday.
    What is the Issue Date on your County Court Claim Form?
  • Coupon-mad
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    Interestingly they say on it that I agreed to pay within 28 days but did not. that's not true, I never agreed to pay at all.
    Please don't let's have that again...please...that is NOTHING and not a point.
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  • nosferatu1001
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    Indeed, this is standard stuff and of course they claim the D agreed to pay, otherwise there couldn't be a claim!

    Please tell us the issue date, and follow the newbies thread on how and when to acknowledge service. 
  • Jimsnap
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    Indeed, this is standard stuff and of course they claim the D agreed to pay, otherwise there couldn't be a claim!

    Please tell us the issue date, and follow the newbies thread on how and when to acknowledge service. 
    The issue date is the 13th of Jan, it says to reply in 14 days but I can extend that to 28 if I need time to prepare my defence.

  • Redx
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    Then do the AOS tomorrow or layer this week , to add the extra fortnight on , but not too early , do not compromise the 5 days by being too early
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