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  • John464
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    beamerguy said:

    CCTV is different to ANPR and  CCTV is not available to parking companies as their could be a data breach where it shows other people.   The police and security companies can use CCTV 

    Don't get confused as you are giving misleading information and you don't want to do that ... do you ?
    Are you saying Lidl and Athena can't look at their own CCTV?
  • Coupon-mad
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    Lidl can look at their CCTV.

    Athena can look at their ANPR images of cars.

    The two cannot share and swap images.

    To the OP, of COURSE you do not need a receipt to complain to Lidl...the SUCCESSFUL COMPLAINTS ABOUT PPCs thread (linked in the first post of the NEWBIES thread) has loads of retailer complaints where PCNs have been cancelled for people with no receipt.

    No-one has to lie, we do not suggest that.  The keeper (NOT YOU) simply sends a complaint to Lidl's Head office/CEO and says he wasn't even in the car and has no receipt because he is the keeper but why is he being fined...he and his family are regular Lidl shoppers and he is incensed...harassment...will never shop there again...etc.!

    No lies in that complaint, and please ignore the posts by someone who thinks (wrongly) that this should be paid.  Don't ignore it either.  Easy to cancel - one email from your boyfriend, the keeper.
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  • beamerguy
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    John464 said:
    beamerguy said:

    CCTV is different to ANPR and  CCTV is not available to parking companies as their could be a data breach where it shows other people.   The police and security companies can use CCTV 

    Don't get confused as you are giving misleading information and you don't want to do that ... do you ?
    Are you saying Lidl and Athena can't look at their own CCTV?
    Lidl will have their own CCTV but NOT for parking purposes. That is why they employ Athena with CCTV

    If Lidl started passing CCTV data to parking companies, the ICO would come down on them like a ton of bricks

    So what you think happens DOES NOT


  • John464
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    beamerguy said:

    Lidl will have their own CCTV but NOT for parking purposes. 


    So who has access to the other cameras in the car park?
    (apart from the ANPR cameras at the entrance)
    and what are cameras in the car park for if 'NOT for parking purposes'?
  • beamerguy
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    John464 said:
    beamerguy said:

    Lidl will have their own CCTV but NOT for parking purposes. 


    So who has access to the other cameras in the car park?
    (apart from the ANPR cameras at the entrance)
    and what are cameras in the car park for if 'NOT for parking purposes'?
    Go and ask Lidl, saves you wasting your time here
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 28 February 2020 at 9:46PM
    John464 said:
    beamerguy said:

    Lidl will have their own CCTV but NOT for parking purposes. 


    So who has access to the other cameras in the car park?
    (apart from the ANPR cameras at the entrance)
    and what are cameras in the car park for if 'NOT for parking purposes'?
    Lidl does, or if they are not the landowner, the landowner does.   CCTV cameras are there for security of the site.

    Athena do not have CCTV nor do they have access to it because their only interest is in harvesting numberplates.
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  • John464
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    Le_Kirk said:
    Even if I wasn't shopping there?
    Doh!  How do they know that?
    Just to recap
    Ive tried to answer your question as best I can
    I don't know for sure 
    I can only suggest
    Possibly by looking at their cameras to see where she went when she got out of the car.
    Others seem to think this unlikely



  • John464
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    beamerguy said:
    John464 said:
    beamerguy said:

    Lidl will have their own CCTV but NOT for parking purposes. 


    So who has access to the other cameras in the car park?
    (apart from the ANPR cameras at the entrance)
    and what are cameras in the car park for if 'NOT for parking purposes'?
    Go and ask Lidl, saves you wasting your time here
    I would feel silly asking Lidl whether they could look at their car park cameras to see if someone got out of their car and went into the store.

  • Umkomaas
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    John464 said:
    beamerguy said:
    John464 said:
    beamerguy said:

    Lidl will have their own CCTV but NOT for parking purposes. 


    So who has access to the other cameras in the car park?
    (apart from the ANPR cameras at the entrance)
    and what are cameras in the car park for if 'NOT for parking purposes'?
    Go and ask Lidl, saves you wasting your time here
    I would feel silly asking Lidl whether they could look at their car park cameras to see if someone got out of their car and went into the store.

    So you come here instead?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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