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  • schiff
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    MONMOUTH BS
    Their recently issued 2019/20 tax statements aren't correct. I had interest in that year, which they show on the statement, but the summary figure is shown as £0.00. I've told them about it but they had realised; fresh statements are being issued. What a simple but costly error!
  • colsten
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    edited 30 May 2020 at 11:51AM
    xxxxxxxx said: 

    I realise it may be better to just put everything into a single account such as NS&I 1.16% 
    It depends on your definition of "better".

    It is certainly easier to dump everything into a 1.16% AER  account than drip-feeding into a number of higher rate accounts.

    From an interest rate point of view, quite obviously 1.5%, 1.85%, 2%, 2.75% accounts will provide a higher return than a 1.16% one. In addition, some of these have a fixed rate for a year whilst the 1.16% is variable. Some of the RSs also tie up your money for 12 months, whilst the 1.16% one is (sort of) instant access.

    Only you can decide what's better for yourself.
  • colsten
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    xxxxxxxx said:
    Can you have more than 1 of the regular regular ones?
    You can have as many regular savers as you can fund. Though you are usually limited to 1 of a particular issue.

    xxxxxxxx said:
    Can I have 3 normal Lloyds regular savers and 1 Lloyds Club regular saver?  

    Each account holder can certainly have 1 Club Lloyds RS and 1 normal RS. I don't believe you can have additional joint ones. In any case, Lloyds want you to appear in Branch to make an RS joint, and - apart from this being ridiculous - you cannot get any appointments presently to make joint accounts. 
  • colsten
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    schiff said:
    MONMOUTH BS
    Their recently issued 2019/20 tax statements aren't correct. I had interest in that year, which they show on the statement, but the summary figure is shown as £0.00. I've told them about it but they had realised; fresh statements are being issued. What a simple but costly error!
    I always ignore all interest statements as I track the interest payments in all my accounts throughout the year, alongside the up-to-date balance of the accounts. At any one point in time, I can just look at my accrued interest totals, nicely split into taxable and non-taxable, and it's easy to do a quick reconciliation at the end of each tax year to ensure I haven't overlooked any. HMRC have never asked me for any interest statements from the banks and have always accepted my totals without asking for details.

    Thanks for the heads up, anyway.
  • adindas
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    edited 30 May 2020 at 12:44PM
    xxxxxxxx said:
    adindas said: Unless you are using your Club Loyds for saving account  only, e.g. the balance stays @£5000, 1.2% interest rate is not a good assumption yes you will only get that rate if the money is £5000 each day. 
    My Club Lloyds are always at £5000+   
    You will only get equivalent of 1.2% if you have £5000, nothing more nothing less  So £5,000 is fine £5000+ is a waste of interest, as you will only get interest up to £5,000. That is the point of my previous post to use it as a saving account and not to be used as a feeder account to achieve this objective. 


  • xxxxxxxx
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    edited 30 May 2020 at 12:33PM
    colsten said:

    It depends on your definition of "better".

    It is certainly easier to dump everything into a 1.16% AER  account than drip-feeding into a number of higher rate accounts.

    From an interest rate point of view, quite obviously 1.5%, 1.85%, 2%, 2.75% accounts will provide a higher return than a 1.16% one. In addition, some of these have fixed rate for a year. Some of these also tie up your money for 12 months, whilst the 1.16% one is (sort of) instant access.

    Only you can decide what's better for yourself.
    I calculated on a £25,000 lump sum   
    it would get £289 in the NS&I account @ 1.16% 
    Assuming the NS&I account can be used as the feeder (which I suppose it cannot).
    Drip feeding into First Direct reg @£300 would increase the interest by £31
    Drip feeding it into Lloyds Club reg @£400 = + £23 
    Drip feeding into a Standard Lloyds reg @£250 = + £6   

    There's no point in the last one extra £6 and I don't want yet another bank like First Direct just to get £30 extra 
    So I think I will look for a single new bank account like NS&I (I am already with them for PB) for the lump sum  and I will use my salary to drip feed into a Lloyds Club regular Saver from my Club accounts.   But even this for £23 seems like too much work but it is in the same bank and it is automatic...so maybe.

    Thanks for your help.  


  • xxxxxxxx
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    edited 30 May 2020 at 12:54PM
    adindas said:
    xxxxxxxx said:
    adindas said: Unless you are using your Club Loyds for saving account  only, e.g. the balance stays @£5000, 1.2% interest rate is not a good assumption yes you will only get that rate if the money is £5000 each day. 
    My Club Lloyds are always at £5000+   
    You will only get 1.2% if you have £5000, nothing less nothing more. So £5,000 is fine £5000+ is a waste of interest, as you will only get interest up to £5,000. That is the point of my previous post to use it as a saving account and not to be used as a feeder account to achieve this objective. 


    But the money is always there and always £5000+  I know I don't get anything on the over £5000 part but it is always there anyway so I might as well use it as the feed account.  And it means I do get £180 a year from those 3 current accounts.  
    I since found out that First Direct and HSBC current accounts probably don't pay interest so switching to them makes no sense for me, I'm better off staying with lloyds  
  • colsten
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    I agree, 1.5% isn't exactly an exciting rate, and the hassle of manual transfers from the NS&I account might not be worth your while. It might get more exciting once NS&I drop their rate, so I for one wouldn't yet totally discard a 1.5% RS. In fact, I opened one the other day at Virgin.....desperate times.

    BTW, you couldn't currently get a First Direct account as they don't presently take applications. You probably could get an HSBC and an M&S one, but they both take ages to open, and you also needed to switch an account to be eligible for the M&S RS. It wouldn't hold me back but it might not be something you want to get involved with. I would also definitely get a 1.85% Coventry RS, and pack some money into current accounts at Virgin and TSB.
  • vernall
    vernall Posts: 566 Forumite
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    Isn't Club Lloyds 2% on balances between £4000 and £5000? or has something happened that I have missed?
  • eskbanker
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    vernall said:
    Isn't Club Lloyds 2% on balances between £4000 and £5000? or has something happened that I have missed?
    Sounds like you've perhaps missed the fact that you only get 2% on that part of the balance that's between £4K and £5K, while the rest up to £4K still only earns 1%.  Hence a balance of £5K earns (£4K @ 1% = £40) plus (£1K @ 2% = £20) equals £60, i.e. 1.2%, which is the highest effective rate you can earn on these accounts.

    (Technically the rates are slightly lower than that as interest on fully-funded accounts can't compound, so is only earned at gross rates (0.99% and 1.99%) rather than the rounder AER figures)
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