£60 Admin Fee on courtesy car for speeding is it enforceable ?

bingoplayer

hahaha 

AdrianC

ElephantBoy57 said:

I consider £60 to be unreasonable and should not be in a contract, but I guess its easier to just pay up, rather than contest it.

If you think a clause is unreasonable, don't accept the car. Hire one yourself from somewhere whose clauses you don't object to.

bingoplayer said:

i do have to laugh , i wonder sometimes why the general public in Britain is so easily shafted by these companies / institutions

Because, like you, they want to drive around in somebody else's car. And they don't bother to find out what they're agreeing to by accepting the car, then whine when they do realise. It's not just the cost of doing the paperwork. There's a legal liability in the s172 process. Until such time as you, the person responsible, accept that it was you (or say who it was), there is the potential for a big chunk of paperwork and for financial penalties for the hire firm.

Is £50+vat too much? That's something you have to consider when accepting the car, and when then breaking the speed limit in it, isn't it?

bingoplayer

its people like you that have allowed us to become so heavily shafted 
you can argue until the cows come home 
but £60 is an extortionate amount to charge in what is effectively part and parcel of running a car rental business

Aylesbury_Duck

bingoplayer said:

but £60 is an extortionate amount to charge in what is effectively part and parcel of running a car rental business

Not really.  Why should the rest of us pay increased hire charges to cover the costs arising from the minority of people who are careless?

Dr_Crypto

Not really. I’ve been hiring cars for years and have never got a fine in one. Why should I pay more to subsidise your mistakes? 

Anyway it’s up to you what you do. They’ll either forget it, chase you through the courts, or charge your insurer who will collect it from you. As Clint said, are you feeling lucky....

Mercdriver

bingoplayer said:

didn't see anything about any admin fee as i said all arranged through insurance 
you say they can make a small claim but in my view that would mean trying to prove the "admin fee" isnt a penalty and at £60 i would imagine that would be pretty difficult
also i cant really see them being bothered for 60 quid 
 i strongly believe this is infact a penalty disguised as an "admin charge"  

You do realise that if they were to take it to County Court, they add their costs to their claim, don't you?

Are you saying you weren't asked to sign anything on picking up the car from the hire company?  I'd be amazed if you didn't have to sign anything and that thing you signed will have had lots of small print, otherwise known as Ts and Cs on it.

bingoplayer

oh no not £25 of small claims costs im shaking in my boots 

Mercdriver

bingoplayer said:

oh no not £25 of small claims costs im shaking in my boots 

They will be able to recover debt collection agency costs as well.  They can claim for any costs that they incur chasing the debt.

Dr_Crypto

The best solution is to front it out and ignore all correspondence. If you get a CCJ come back and ask why people won’t lend you a pen and whether there’s some ombudsman who can help. 

bingoplayer

gheee im sure i initally posted on the money saving forum but somehow in the process ive been teleported to a bailiff enforcement forum 
forget i asked folks il ignore it and take the "CCJ"