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I know, You've heard it all before. More CCJ angst

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  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,591 Forumite
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    With or without prejudice , it is highly disadvantageous to you imo.   I would advise them to go forth and multiply.  
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    Did the claimant give detasils of the offer, or just referred to an offer to settle having been made?
    This is important. An offer made "without prejudice" cannot be disclosed to the courts
  • henrik777
    henrik777 Posts: 3,054 Forumite
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    Was that offer sent "without prejudice" to you?
    That's everything I received direct from the court manager. 
    There are 2 CCJ'S Their offer makes no reference to the other CCJ. They DO state it is made 'without prejudice'.

    The court manager may have sent it to you ,as you say, but it's clearly not drafted by them. 
  • Did the claimant give detasils of the offer, or just referred to an offer to settle having been made?
    This is important. An offer made "without prejudice" cannot be disclosed to the courts
    In the original letter they sent me, they made reference to their offer being made 'without prejudice'. In their submission lodged with the court prior to my hearing on the 31st of March they make reference to this offer and even attach the letter to their court submission that they sent me stating 'Made Without Prejudice Save To Costs'.
    Not sure if this is a good or a bad thing. 
    Many thanks again for your interest in this and your help.
  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    If they filed that WITH the courts bundle, then they are in breach 

    that document CANNOT be disclosed to a court until AFTER a decision - such as set aside of judgment - has been given. 
  • If they filed that WITH the courts bundle, then they are in breach 

    that document CANNOT be disclosed to a court until AFTER a decision - such as set aside of judgment - has been given. 
    They definitely did as the email to the court confirms......
  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    I know they did do

    thats the point I'm making

    they are barred from doing so 

    https://hallellis.co.uk/without-prejudice-meaning/

    complain to the court. 
  • OK,
    I'll send them an email to complain.
    Thanks
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,305 Forumite
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    OK,
    I'll send them an email to complain.
    Thanks
    Send who?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,354 Forumite
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    You are not to send any email.  You simply raise this as one of your bullet points at the hearing and if they are not attending, then you will have the floor!
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