The Nice People No. 17

michaels

PasturesNew said:

You know... b4lls.... this whole coronas thing ... will mean fewer people choosing now to sell.  
Just ..... b4lls. 
 

Lots of empty chain free homes soon though - especially bungalows

silvercar

GDB2222 said:

My wife was due to see the dentist on Monday, but they phoned up to cancel that morning. It turns out that he has Covid19. He’s in the local paper. 

Hopefully he will fully recover quickly, then he will be the safest dentist around.

first couple of articles I saw, named and pictured him, now it’s a dentist returning from Italy.

PasturesNew

michaels said:

PasturesNew said:

Lots of empty chain free homes soon though - especially bungalows

Oh .. that's ... just sooooo wrong. 
I don't want one like that

SingleSue

ukmaggie45 said:

PasturesNew said

My dentist's booked for end of this month some time, I was wondering how things would pan out with that.... 

I'm going to cancel (OH will be doing the deed since I really have problems talking on the phone) my dental hygienist appt in about 10 days as I'm not only over 70 (8% chance of death it you catch it ) but also have ME which I assume counts as another condition... Also have breath probs too, though they don't actually affect me much since am too knackered to exercise in any way. 

When it comes to Dentist, I'm not sure yet. I have a load of work needs doing on my teeth. But not sure what to do - if tooth ache happens I'll deffo go, but not sure if it's just getting stuff fixed. I'll wait and see I guess.

I'm still (just) in the low risk age group at 49.....still another 6 ish weeks to go until the big 50. However, I also have ME/CFS , asthma and EDS (which can hamper immune response hence pneumonia x 3 since 2017!), so I think that evens it out a little.

I'm not overly concerned for me at the moment, amazing for me as I get eek about things but youngest is absolutely bricking it. He is in the very low risk group for age at 21 but in a very high risk group because his immune system is completely beggered (and always has been), has severe asthma, also has EDS and CFS and a mild cold has put him in hospital and intensive care more than a few times...oh and he is at university with people travelling everywhere.

GDB2222

'over 70 (8% chance of death it you catch it )'

My understanding is that you are being unduly pessimistic. The 8% death rate was derived from Chinese statistics, and they only tested people with severe symptoms. Lots of people get it quite mildly and never enter the statistics. So, the 8% death rate was really just for people who turned up at hospital with pneumonia. For every one of those, there were very roughly ten others (between 5 and 20, but it’s hard to tell) who stayed at home and felt a bit poorly.

 I was reading about a young Chinese man who got it quite badly. A committee of doctors had to agree that he was bad enough before they were allowed to do a blood test. I guess that was a political issue, to keep the number of reported cases down.

GDB2222

silvercar said:

GDB2222 said:

My wife was due to see the dentist on Monday, but they phoned up to cancel that morning. It turns out that he has Covid19. He’s in the local paper. 

Hopefully he will fully recover quickly, then he will be the safest dentist around.

first couple of articles I saw, named and pictured him, now it’s a dentist returning from Italy.

I haven’t seen him named, but I am assuming that it’s Richard Prais. His practice phoned up and said he had food poisoning! 

I have appointments booked for two weeks from now, both with the hygienist and the dentist. Do I postpone those appointments for a month to make sure that they are not infectious? Or is it better to get infected now, whilst the NHS still has resources to treat people?

vivatifosi

I don't know if any of you saw the Chief Medical Officer being interviewed at the committee yesterday, but strongly recommend watching.  He was very reassuring.  He answered all of the questions calmly and certainly put my mind at rest.  There is no doubt that this virus is going to be horrible, not least if it gets into more large concentrations of vulnerable people (care homes, cruise ships etc).  However for most people will be fine.

My mum is in her eighties and I'm concerned about her. However although the death rate in her category is the highest, she still has a far greater chance of recovery.

I think the part that I found most interesting is that there is no test for the asymptomatic "super-spreaders".  Consequently the base of the triangle is much larger than people think and this also reduces people's worst fears about the death rate.

PasturesNew

With my parents, the main fear would've come from them simply "thinking it's ridiculous" and poo-poohing it - and carrying on as normal.  Even if they'd taken it in they'd have not translated the information into changes they should make, nor would the effects of their actions have registered.  They'd have caught it through ignorance, being personally unaware.  They'd listen, nod, then go off and do things as normal without a thought.  I'm glad I don't have to worry about them as they'd have not "been told". 

I have to go out today, on a round robin to some shops ... so have my anti-bac wipes in the car between shops and I'll take/carry my own bag round the shops most likely.

Pyxis

PasturesNew said:

With my parents, the main fear would've come from them simply "thinking it's ridiculous" and poo-poohing it - and carrying on as normal.  Even if they'd taken it in they'd have not translated the information into changes they should make, nor would the effects of their actions have registered.  They'd have caught it through ignorance, being personally unaware.  They'd listen, nod, then go off and do things as normal without a thought.  I'm glad I don't have to worry about them as they'd have not "been told". 

I have to go out today, on a round robin to some shops ... so have my anti-bac wipes in the car between shops and I'll take/carry my own bag round the shops most likely.

Assuming that’s not a catch-all phrase you are using, it’s worth reminding that anti-bacterial is not anti-viral.
Of course, those wipes might be anti-viral, but if the packet doesn’t specify that, please don’t rely on them being protective.
You’d be better off buying some super-strong Russian vodka and putting some into a little spray bottle to keep in your bag. (Plus hand-washing when you return home, of course).

silvercar

GDB2222 said:

silvercar said:

GDB2222 said:

My wife was due to see the dentist on Monday, but they phoned up to cancel that morning. It turns out that he has Covid19. He’s in the local paper. 

Hopefully he will fully recover quickly, then he will be the safest dentist around.

first couple of articles I saw, named and pictured him, now it’s a dentist returning from Italy.

I haven’t seen him named, but I am assuming that it’s Richard Prais. His practice phoned up and said he had food poisoning! 

I have appointments booked for two weeks from now, both with the hygienist and the dentist. Do I postpone those appointments for a month to make sure that they are not infectious? Or is it better to get infected now, whilst the NHS still has resources to treat people?

He self isolated after changing planes in Milan airport, so hadn't been into the practice since returning from holiday. His practice is safe according to public health. When he does return to work, he will be the dentist least likely to have corona, so probably the safest place in the country!