The Nice People No. 17

PasturesNew

zagubov said:

PasturesNew said:

"270ft long and 52ft wide"
You could easily get 15 houses in there.

I used to work in a posh town in Surrey where big old houses in even bigger gardens would be bought up and turned into miniature branched lanes of compact terraced housing. Cars would be parked on the road and no land would be wasted on garages or driveways. Tiny gardens too.
The way of the future I suppose, if the public want houses with gardens rather than flats.

This is the trouble I have here, with new builds.... all shared/allocated parking.  Many look like they could've given everybody their own drive in their garden... but they chose not to.  Maybe there's some minimum turning circle area/s the planners make them adhere to.  

Allocated parking works only for the bit of "parking the car". For anything else it's pants, especially if somebody adjacent's a wonky driver.  You can't open the doors fully, so no loading/unloading kids or shopping, or goods or anything.  All you've room to do is pull in and park, then carefully get out/squeeze out. 

Parking the car's more than just having somewhere to park it, it's getting in and out with your stuff that's also important.  Being able to have doors open while you vacuum or clear it out.  And times when you're loading/unloading shopping, or going away.  You can't do any of that in allocated parking bays.

zagubov

PasturesNew said:

zagubov said:

PasturesNew said:

"270ft long and 52ft wide"
You could easily get 15 houses in there.

I used to work in a posh town in Surrey where big old houses in even bigger gardens would be bought up and turned into miniature branched lanes of compact terraced housing. Cars would be parked on the road and no land would be wasted on garages or driveways. Tiny gardens too.
The way of the future I suppose, if the public want houses with gardens rather than flats.

This is the trouble I have here, with new builds.... all shared/allocated parking.  Many look like they could've given everybody their own drive in their garden... but they chose not to.  Maybe there's some minimum turning circle area/s the planners make them adhere to.  

Allocated parking works only for the bit of "parking the car". For anything else it's pants, especially if somebody adjacent's a wonky driver.  You can't open the doors fully, so no loading/unloading kids or shopping, or goods or anything.  All you've room to do is pull in and park, then carefully get out/squeeze out. 

Parking the car's more than just having somewhere to park it, it's getting in and out with your stuff that's also important.  Being able to have doors open while you vacuum or clear it out.  And times when you're loading/unloading shopping, or going away.  You can't do any of that in allocated parking bays.

We rented a new build terrace while we were househunting. It was laid out in a small cul-de-sac like I described in my previous post. There was a gate so you didn't get outsiders coming to park.  All the space seemed to be measured out exactly. You could park cars at right angles to the house but people would probably want to get out before parking.
You had to reverse in so you could load/unload the boot. 
But in London, even as far out to the edge as we were, you're grateful for what space you can get, especially parking space.

SingleSue

I don't even have an allocated space! I have to take my chances on getting parked on the road outside the house, something that has been made more difficult by some putting driveways in (we did have permission but couldn't afford to get it done). Luckily, there is what we call the green but is actually just a corner bit of grass slightly raised up that can be used as overflow on a very unofficial basis...I sometimes park my car there just to feel safer on football days (there is a park up the road and slightly round the corner where the local team train and play) or when next door are doing car jenga.

GDB2222

Car jenga? 

vivatifosi

We have allocated parking here and it works fine. The issue isnt allocated parking as such, it is how much allocated parking. We have two spaces and a garage. It is where you have significantly less that you have a problem.

Pyxis

vivatifosi said:

We have allocated parking here and it works fine. The issue isnt allocated parking as such, it is how much allocated parking. We have two spaces and a garage. It is where you have significantly less that you have a problem.

.....and yet, it’s still not so much the amount of allocated parking as the actions of selfish imbeciles that abuse it. Without a definable boundary, you have no way of stopping anyone just parking anywhere, or anyhow they like, because they just don’t care.

Pyxis

GDB2222 said:

Car jenga? 

Jiggle-juggling multiple cars around available spaces?

Pyxis

SingleSue said:

I don't even have an allocated space! I have to take my chances on getting parked on the road outside the house, something that has been made more difficult by some putting driveways in (we did have permission but couldn't afford to get it done). Luckily, there is what we call the green but is actually just a corner bit of grass slightly raised up that can be used as overflow on a very unofficial basis...I sometimes park my car there just to feel safer on football days (there is a park up the road and slightly round the corner where the local team train and play) or when next door are doing car jenga.

Could you not apply to have the road space outside your house designated as disabled parking?

vivatifosi

Pyxis said:

vivatifosi said:

We have allocated parking here and it works fine. The issue isnt allocated parking as such, it is how much allocated parking. We have two spaces and a garage. It is where you have significantly less that you have a problem.

.....and yet, it’s still not so much the amount of allocated parking as the actions of selfish imbeciles that abuse it. Without a definable boundary, you have no way of stopping anyone just parking anywhere, or anyhow they like, because they just don’t care.

Honestly it doesn't happen here. I have two spaces by my house and a garage. The spaces are by the houses rather than in one big car park. There isnt a problem. However there is no shortage of parking places. In addition to the above there is also standard on road parking. Put enough provision in and it isn't a problem. The issue is that most locations dont have sufficient provision and the government suggested provision is much lower, so that's what gets built.

There is a development near the local station that has no parking and the assumption is that people dont need it as they get trains. But we aren't in London and you still need to get to the supermarket to get shopping etc, with no local facilities nearby. Net result, people have cars.

GDB2222

Pyxis said:

GDB2222 said:

Car jenga? 

Jiggle-juggling multiple cars around available spaces?

Ah, okay! I thought Jenga involved stacking vertically then it all falling down, and Sue seemed remarkably calm about that.