New "Have a Look at This" thread

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Ditzy_Mitzy said:

Sunsaru said:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/110703956#/media?channel=RES_BUY&id=media3&ref=photoCollage

For one second I thought I was back at school...

What a strange looking property!  'Stunning Fitted Kitchen' is pushing it.  Some of the cupboard doors are sagging and misaligned, and there's mastic smeared about in various places.  A teacher might give the place a solid C, but note that it could have been better with more effort.  

Classic modern British architecture. They copied something they saw in a magazine but didn't really understand it. You can bet the windows are not well insulated, there is nowhere to charge a vehicle, it's tiny and the workmanship is up to the usual New Build standards.

They must sell, I guess people are wowed by the windows and "modern" style, without really understanding how rubbish buildings like that are. It kinda looks like a more expensive, well designed out, but only kinda.

There's a Twitter account with a rude name that collects these examples.

FreeBear

rigolith said: , there is nowhere to charge a vehicle, it's tiny and the workmanship is up to the usual New Build standards.

How many new builds include a charging point for an EV ?

Certainly none of the properties that have been built in my area don't have EV charging points, nor is it a BR requirement (as far as I know).

BikingBud

Ditzy_Mitzy said:

[Deleted User] said:

That's great for you, but the average UK household size is 2.4. Unless you are saying that the average terrace house is only designed for two people maximum...

It's a perfectly decent house for a single person or childless couple.  At a pinch one might imagine a young couple with a baby living there, although they'd probably have to move on as it grows up.  The second bedroom is on the bijou side, but comparable in size to my first when I was young.  What point are you making?  Should singletons and childless couples not have the opportunity to buy houses designed to suit them?  

But the biggest issue is when that small/young family want to move on and the cash uplift, next step £800k+? is prohibitive and unattainable.

[Deleted User]

FreeBear said:

rigolith said: , there is nowhere to charge a vehicle, it's tiny and the workmanship is up to the usual New Build standards.

How many new builds include a charging point for an EV ?

Certainly none of the properties that have been built in my area don't have EV charging points, nor is it a BR requirement (as far as I know).

I know, it's madness. They know that fossil cars are going to be banned in 9 years and homes where you can't charge from your home electricity supply are going to be worth a lot less. Having to use public charging is going to be a significant hassle and expense compared to plugging in at home.

There was some talk of the government mandating it, but it doesn't seem to have happened. Talk about short sighted.

Davesnave

[Deleted User] said:

FreeBear said:

rigolith said: , there is nowhere to charge a vehicle, it's tiny and the workmanship is up to the usual New Build standards.

How many new builds include a charging point for an EV ?

Certainly none of the properties that have been built in my area don't have EV charging points, nor is it a BR requirement (as far as I know).

 They know that fossil cars are going to be banned in 9 years and homes where you can't charge from your home electricity supply are going to be worth a lot less. Having to use public charging is going to be a significant hassle and expense compared to plugging in at home.

There was some talk of the government mandating it, but it doesn't seem to have happened. Talk about short sighted.

Perhaps the longer term objective is not to allow private cars at all. If you look at the plans of our better-off pals, you'll see they have us in urban zones where everyday stuff is all within 15km envelopes and we plebs are mostly on bikes. After all, exercise is good for us.

If a car is needed it will be hired from a pool.

GDB2222

Davesnave said:

[Deleted User] said:

FreeBear said:

rigolith said: , there is nowhere to charge a vehicle, it's tiny and the workmanship is up to the usual New Build standards.

How many new builds include a charging point for an EV ?

Certainly none of the properties that have been built in my area don't have EV charging points, nor is it a BR requirement (as far as I know).

 They know that fossil cars are going to be banned in 9 years and homes where you can't charge from your home electricity supply are going to be worth a lot less. Having to use public charging is going to be a significant hassle and expense compared to plugging in at home.

There was some talk of the government mandating it, but it doesn't seem to have happened. Talk about short sighted.

Perhaps the longer term objective is not to allow private cars at all. If you look at the plans of our better-off pals, you'll see they have us in urban zones where everyday stuff is all within 15km envelopes and we plebs are mostly on bikes. After all, exercise is good for us.

If a car is needed it will be hired from a pool.

Many people live in flats, with no facilities for charging cars. There's no real reason why there can't be car chargers on the pavements, next to all the car parking spaces in towns. I don't see why, in principle, that should cost more than charging at home?

Apart from that, the plan you outlined of everyone riding bikes would suit me down to the ground. The main reason why I don't bike much is the fear that some idiot in a car is going to run me down.

As to car sharing, that's all good. We hardly use our car, as we walk to most places or use public transport, so it would be highly sensible for us to share cars. Traipsing round to pick up a pool car would not be ideal, but I assume that pretty soon we will order one and it will drive itself round to us. That sort of thing obviously works better for people in towns than in remote locations.

[Deleted User]

GDB2222 said:

Davesnave said:

[Deleted User] said:

FreeBear said:

[Deleted User] said: , there is nowhere to charge a vehicle, it's tiny and the workmanship is up to the usual New Build standards.

How many new builds include a charging point for an EV ?

Certainly none of the properties that have been built in my area don't have EV charging points, nor is it a BR requirement (as far as I know).

 They know that fossil cars are going to be banned in 9 years and homes where you can't charge from your home electricity supply are going to be worth a lot less. Having to use public charging is going to be a significant hassle and expense compared to plugging in at home.

There was some talk of the government mandating it, but it doesn't seem to have happened. Talk about short sighted.

Perhaps the longer term objective is not to allow private cars at all. If you look at the plans of our better-off pals, you'll see they have us in urban zones where everyday stuff is all within 15km envelopes and we plebs are mostly on bikes. After all, exercise is good for us.

If a car is needed it will be hired from a pool.

Many people live in flats, with no facilities for charging cars. There's no real reason why there can't be car chargers on the pavements, next to all the car parking spaces in towns. I don't see why, in principle, that should cost more than charging at home?

Apart from that, the plan you outlined of everyone riding bikes would suit me down to the ground. The main reason why I don't bike much is the fear that some idiot in a car is going to run me down.

As to car sharing, that's all good. We hardly use our car, as we walk to most places or use public transport, so it would be highly sensible for us to share cars. Traipsing round to pick up a pool car would not be ideal, but I assume that pretty soon we will order one and it will drive itself round to us. That sort of thing obviously works better for people in towns than in remote locations.

On-street charging will always cost more. At home you own the charger, it's unlikely to get hit by someone who can't park or vandalised. On street there are all sorts of rules about where they can be placed, cooperation with the council is needed, electricity supply installed, on-going maintenance, support hotline, payment processing fees etc. The cost will be multiple of what it costs at home to charge.

BikingBud

Off topic but worth a read:

https://theicct.org/sites/default/files/publications/EV_city_policies_white_paper_fv_20200224.pdf

Slinky

GDB2222 said:

Davesnave said:

[Deleted User] said:

FreeBear said:

rigolith said: , there is nowhere to charge a vehicle, it's tiny and the workmanship is up to the usual New Build standards.

How many new builds include a charging point for an EV ?

Certainly none of the properties that have been built in my area don't have EV charging points, nor is it a BR requirement (as far as I know).

 They know that fossil cars are going to be banned in 9 years and homes where you can't charge from your home electricity supply are going to be worth a lot less. Having to use public charging is going to be a significant hassle and expense compared to plugging in at home.

There was some talk of the government mandating it, but it doesn't seem to have happened. Talk about short sighted.

Perhaps the longer term objective is not to allow private cars at all. If you look at the plans of our better-off pals, you'll see they have us in urban zones where everyday stuff is all within 15km envelopes and we plebs are mostly on bikes. After all, exercise is good for us.

If a car is needed it will be hired from a pool.

 Traipsing round to pick up a pool car would not be ideal, but I assume that pretty soon we will order one and it will drive itself round to us. That sort of thing obviously works better for people in towns than in remote locations.

Isn't that called a taxi?

amyr

Full size Egyptian Mummies. No further commentary needed.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/115235168