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  • Mercdriver
    Mercdriver Posts: 3,898 Forumite
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    I would be careful of wishing for speed bumps. If there is any heavy traffic like lorries and buses, they can cause subsidence. Some have been removed from areas in South Wales because of this.
  • AdrianC
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    It's also worth remembering that we're only talking about one incident every year and a half. Way above average, sure, but not quite the same as one every week or two.
  • Were there any witnesses to this most recent accident or CCTV footage?
  • AdrianC wrote: »
    The simplest action in your hands is also your most effective.

    Park elsewhere.

    A sign's not going to make any difference - this bend is not invisible, and they're already proving they aren't overly worried about signage.

    That apart, it's just down to lobbying the local authority. Get in contact with your ward councillor. Give them the documentation of the history.

    The accident happened at night. I expect the most likely cause was the driver not being able to judge the angle of the bend and came in too fast to make the turn. A sign alerting the driver to the acute bend with a lower speed limit might have prevented this happening. Its very dismissive to say a "sign's not going to make any difference" without knowing the full details of the road or accident.
  • DUTR
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    The accident happened at night. I expect the most likely cause was the driver not being able to judge the angle of the bend and came in too fast to make the turn. A sign alerting the driver to the acute bend with a lower speed limit might have prevented this happening. Its very dismissive to say a "sign's not going to make any difference" without knowing the full details of the road or accident.

    It's equally dismissive to assume a sign will make any significant difference either, and it is a significant difference the OP is hoping for.
    The incidents have occurred due to the driver's ignorance of the road condition ahead.
  • AdrianC
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    edited 31 December 2019 at 2:07PM
    The accident happened at night.
    Anybody would think that they'd have put torches on the front of cars by now.
    I expect the most likely cause was the driver not being able to judge the angle of the bend
    So now "night" was irrelevant? Because sightlines are exactly the same at night as in the day, of course.
    and came in too fast
    By George, I think he's got it...
    A sign alerting the driver to the acute bend with a lower speed limit might have prevented this happening. Its very dismissive to say a "sign's not going to make any difference" without knowing the full details of the road or accident.
    Well, given that this is in the middle of a village, I think we can hazard a guess that it's a 30 limit.

    And the combo of too much speed and late at night, followed by doing a runner... What does that suggest to you about blood-alcohol levels? Once every year and a half on average.

    So, no, I really don't think a home-made sign is going to achieve very much at all...
    DUTR wrote: »
    The incidents have occurred due to the driver's ignorance of the road condition ahead.
    You're assuming the drivers had never used that road before. Occam's Razor says otherwise.

    Even though data isn't the plural of anecdote, there was a fatal collision just up the road from here a year or two back. Turned out that after a long and far-from-abstemious evening in the pub, he'd been doing laps of the local area in a modified car. And he'd simply arrived at a corner far too fast. There was a probably 50+m long tyre mark before the corner from a locked brake - in an absolutely straight line into the tree (which didn't get damaged).
    The first on the scene were the occupants of the nearest house. His grandparents, who he lived with in that very house.
  • katie4
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    Were there any witnesses to this most recent accident or CCTV footage?

    no it was 10.30pm at night although our neighbour has cctv it wasn't switched on as they're replacing their cameras
  • DUTR
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    Anybody would think that they'd have put torches on the front of cars by now.


    So now "night" was irrelevant? Because sightlines are exactly the same at night as in the day, of course.


    By George, I think he's got it...


    Well, given that this is in the middle of a village, I think we can hazard a guess that it's a 30 limit.

    And the combo of too much speed and late at night, followed by doing a runner... What does that suggest to you about blood-alcohol levels? Once every year and a half on average.

    So, no, I really don't think a home-made sign is going to achieve very much at all...


    You're assuming the drivers had never used that road before. Occam's Razor says otherwise.

    Even though data isn't the plural of anecdote, there was a fatal collision just up the road from here a year or two back. Turned out that after a long and far-from-abstemious evening in the pub, he'd been doing laps of the local area in a modified car. And he'd simply arrived at a corner far too fast. There was a probably 50+m long tyre mark before the corner from a locked brake - in an absolutely straight line into the tree (which didn't get damaged).
    The first on the scene were the occupants of the nearest house. His grandparents, who he lived with in that very house.

    I'm not assuming they have not used the road before, more the opposite that they use the road often yet choose to ignore what may or may not lay ahead.
    It's similar to the schools and nurseries nearby, the most hazardous drivers are not the one passing by but the drivers of the residents of the establishments.
  • AdrianC
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    DUTR wrote: »
    I'm not assuming they have not used the road before, more the opposite that they use the road often yet choose to ignore what may or may not lay ahead.
    "Ignoring the road ahead" is not "ignorance of the road ahead".
  • stator
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    In the stealth of night sneak out in your cat burglar suit and paint speed camera style road markings about 20m down the road from your house.
    Changing the world, one sarcastic comment at a time.
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