Being filmed like a criminal.

GreyQueen

I'm in my fifties. Old enough to have grown up in a very different era to present, but still too young to remember the hardships of wartime and the rationing afterwards, although I heard all about it from my parents and grandparents.


I do remember that supermarkets didn't always feel it necessary to put security patches on meat, security collars on spirits and RFID chips in things like packets of razors.


That these costly things are done indicates that there are a lot of thieving beggars out there, no? We're all paying for that through higher prices, security guards, electronic survelliance and electronic tagging. Hell, there's even a doofer on the base of one of my H & B dietary supplements, folk obviously like to steal them.



A friend of mine runs a small (non food) shop. His commercial insurance covers against robbery and burglary but not against shoplifting - that's a loss directly off his bottom line. You can bet yer boots he has CCTV.

Mistral001

Lidl seems to be doing very well with just old-fashioned check outs. Their managers helps stack the shelves and man the check-outs. Not a self-service check-out or self-scanning gizmo in sight.

VJsmum

Butting in...

I think our data and our image are everywhere - many of us post photos on social media, a lot of people have fitbits that upload to the cloud, we send our DNA off to be analysed… I think a few in store CCTV cameras are the least of it TBH. I am interested in my DNA but not enough to put a sample of it 'out there' and call me paranoid (or VJsmum, whichever is easier ) but putting data regarding one's health and fitness for 'them' to access is asking for trouble in our insurance company led future health service IMO...

Regarding the environment, regardless of "who started it", we all have to change, reduce, reuse, recycle, simply stop and think about what we are doing. It's company / government led of course, but changing habits can change policy in the world of supply and demand. if we say 'what about china / India?' then stop buying products from those places. Totally hypocritical of me, who still flies (though I do offset it), but as someone said 'you're either a hypocrite or an @rsehole and i'd rather be a hypocrite' :rotfl:

Farway

Mistral001 wrote: »

Lidl seems to be doing very well with just old-fashioned check outs. Their managers helps stack the shelves and man the check-outs. Not a self-service check-out or self-scanning gizmo in sight.

My Lidl did have security guard in a bit back, toe rags nicking coffee it seems, got so bad it was removed from shelves & had an "ask at till" sign


Now back to normal thank goodness. Reading on MSE it seems some L's have self service tills but I guess it depends on store size & location, mine does not

PS, a good tip I discovered a bit back

"This message is hidden because Mr_Singleton is on your ignore list." Works successfully for me:D

VJsmum

Amongst all this squabbling - the futility of it is brought home when a prolific and valued poster on this forum posts that her eldest son has been found dead, probably due to a seizure.

All thoughts are with Dig for Victory and her family at this dreadful, dreadful time...

over and out

Mistral001

I see a lot of compliance here about this issue. A big supermarket chain brings in something that make many people uncomfortable and the reaction is that it is generally a good thing. It reduces shoplifting and the only people who should be afraid of it are people who have something to hide is a strong argument. So we comply.

But when should we stop complying? Remember these supermarkets are just businesses. They are not government departments or international organisations who bring in security measures for our own safety, such as in the case of airport security where personal space and dignity of the passengers are affected to keep them from being blown out of the sky.

Mr_Singleton

VJsmum wrote: »

Amongst all this squabbling

I can't see any squabbling..... just a debate with arguments for and against.

VJsmum wrote: »

the futility of it is brought home when a prolific and valued poster on this forum posts that her eldest son has been found dead, probably due to a seizure.

All thoughts are with Dig for Victory and her family at this dreadful, dreadful time...

over and out

My sincere condolences to the bereaved. My thoughts are with you.

coffeehound

VJsmum wrote: »

Amongst all this squabbling - the futility of it is brought home when a prolific and valued poster on this forum posts that her eldest son has been found dead, probably due to a seizure.

All thoughts are with Dig for Victory and her family at this dreadful, dreadful time...

That's tragic; how terrible for DfV

Mistral001

VJsmum wrote: »

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, but as someone said 'you're either a hypocrite or an @rsehole and i'd rather be a hypocrite' :rotfl:

No offense meant, but a hypocrite IS an @rsehole in many people's eyes.

Mr_Singleton

VfM4meplse wrote: »

By implication it's okay for shrinkage to occur at the till? None of its right, all it does is push prices up for the consumer.

Agreed no shoplifting is OK but is it pushing prices up or pushing profits down?