Being filmed like a criminal.

Pollycat

euronorris wrote: »

I'm not blaming anyone. I haven't said anything of the sort. But equally, find it very unfair to pin the blame on the younger generation, many of whom grew up with parents setting the 'throw away mentality' as the example.


Truth be told, I don't think it is a problem created by any generation really, or at least not one on it's own. More one that has been created by big companies all in the name of profit. Individuals are certainly not innocent, but companies purposely building faults into their products, or redundancies (as is often seen in mobile phones and computers for example), as well as poorer quality of products, has certainly not helped the problem. After all, it's more profitable to have someone buy a new vacuum every few years, than it is to have them only buy 1/2 in their lifetime.

The 'blame' started in the post below:

Mr_Singleton wrote: »

Lastly most of your argument against water is related to cost rather than the plastic bottle it comes in ie the environment. Now that definitely is a generational thing as your generation has spent its time ‘destroying’ the environment whereas mine is trying or at least trying to start cleaning it up.

'your generation' being JackieO's

I'm not blaming anyone but my own eyes tell me it's mainly the younger generation who seem to chuck disposable food/drink containers away willy-nilly. Quite often right where they're standing.

Older people are less likely to want to buy new phones, laptops, tablets etc.
My technology is quite old. But perfectly serviceable and I don't need to impress anybody with how high the number is on my i-phone (I don't have an i-phone).

Mr_Singleton

suki1964 wrote: »

But it doesn't make ME feel uncomfortable because IM not doing anything wrong

Why is it bothering you so much?

What would make you uncomfortable? If in 5 years you had to consent to a strip search when leaving a supermarket. Well if you hadn't stolen anything what have you got to worry about?

Pollycat

Mr_Singleton wrote: »

What would make you uncomfortable? If in 5 years you had to consent to a strip search when leaving a supermarket. Well if you hadn't stolen anything what have you got to worry about?

And do you really think that is likely? :rotfl:

Wednesday2000

VJsmum wrote: »

Amongst all this squabbling - the futility of it is brought home when a prolific and valued poster on this forum posts that her eldest son has been found dead, probably due to a seizure.

All thoughts are with Dig for Victory and her family at this dreadful, dreadful time...

over and out

I'm so sorry to read that.:(

euronorris wrote: »

Truth be told, I don't think it is a problem created by any generation really, or at least not one on it's own. More one that has been created by big companies all in the name of profit. Individuals are certainly not innocent, but companies purposely building faults into their products, or redundancies (as is often seen in mobile phones and computers for example), as well as poorer quality of products, has certainly not helped the problem. After all, it's more profitable to have someone buy a new vacuum every few years, than it is to have them only buy 1/2 in their lifetime.

Yes, I agree.

Mr_Singleton

suki1964 wrote: »

That is so out of order

I'm not talking about you or anyone else specifically but society in general at the time.

Over the last 75 years biodiversity has collapsed. The amount of extinctions has rocketed.

Small fields with hedges were fine for small scale mixed farming. After the war with the push extra food production horses were replaced with powerful tractors and small fields with hedges were a pain. So the hedges got ripped out. Fertiliser usage rocketed but so did pests so let's drench everything in pesticide. Topsoil got eroded, fertilizer and pesticide run off polluted waterways all in the name of cheap food.

Don't forget all those wondrous new materials called errrr plastics invented in the 60's. Was there any recycling? Again shipping containers were invented in the late 50's the precursor and enabler of Globalization.

More efficient cars in the 70's didn't come about because of a concern for environmental pollution but because manufacturers were concerned that high petrol prices would mean people buying less cars.

But let's leave the last word to Sir David Attenborough who talking about the environment recently and said....

"My Generation Has Done Terrible Things"

I wonder what he means

suki1964

Mr_Singleton wrote: »

What would make you uncomfortable? If in 5 years you had to consent to a strip search when leaving a supermarket. Well if you hadn't stolen anything what have you got to worry about?

Now you are being totally ridiculous

As it happens, when I used to fly, I was always stopped for a pat down by security and the amount of times my cosmetic bag was opened and the contents tested for drugs ( mineral cosmetics which look like fine powders) , well if I had a fiver each time, I could be flying business class. Pain in the bum but I knew and understood the reasoning behind it happening so no that didn't bother me at all

Same as Im sure you are more than happy with removing your jacket, your shoes, your belt going though security . Its there to protect us all, we understand, we accept. No difference in a supermarket putting you on CCTV right in your face

Now why would a supermarket want us naked? They have the scanners on the doors, they have cctv?

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The thought that security from a supermarket wanting anyone to strip naked for a body search gives me a very odd view of what is classed as normal behaviour in a supermarket! where would be the opportunity to hide things under your undies in full view of the people shopping and the staff stacking shelves and pushing those online order trolleys that seem to be in every aisle whenever I go! it gives the most bizarre mental images and an overwhelming need to giggle!

Pollycat

Mr_Singleton wrote: »

Last week was doing some laps of Regents Park and afterwards popped into the Sainsbury's in Camden Town for some water. To my surprise the there are individual cameras on each of the self service checkout filming you with an LCD screen so you can see yourself. Have been told that it's the same in Asda and Tesco. Why do people put up with It? It's bad enough that they've done away wih 85% of the checkout operators now this!

Has anyone seen the cameras in an Waitrose or M&S coz when they do I'm converting to online shopping for the tiny bit I do. Yet another reason to use local independents!

Going right back to the beginning now the OP has branched off in some bizarre direction with visions of people being strip searched when leaving a store.
It's up to each individual shopper what they 'put up with'.
Numerous posters - including me - have said it doesn't bother them.
As it clearly bothers you, just shop elsewhere.

Mr_Singleton

Pollycat wrote: »

And do you really think that is likely? :rotfl:

Go back 20 years and they'd laugh at what happens now... "That'll never happen"

Barny1979

Slinky wrote: »

Copied from Facebook, a lady called M Judd:


Yesterday after shopping in our local supermarket, I was in the queue at the Check Out, and heard when the young cashier suggested to the much older lady that she should bring her own grocery bags, because plastic bags are not good for the environment.
The woman apologised to the young girl & then sighed, "We didn't have this 'green thing' back in my earlier days."
The young clerk responded, "That's our problem today. You folk didn't do enough to save our environment for future generations."
The older lady said "Ahh yes you're right -- our generation didn't have the "green thing" in its day." She sighed then continued:
Back then, we returned milk bottles, lemonade bottles & beer bottles to the shops. The shops then sent them back to the plant to be washed, sterilized & refilled, so those same bottles were used over & over, thus REALLY were recycled. But we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day.
Grocery stores put our groceries into brown paper bags that we reused for numerous things. Most memorable was the use of brown paper bags as book covers for our school books. This was to ensure that public property (the books provided for our use by the school) were not defaced by our scribblings. Then we were able to personalise our books on their brown paper bag/covers. But, too bad we didn't do the "green thing" back then.
I remember how we walked up stairs because we didn't have an escalator in every store or office building; walked to the grocery store & didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go 200 yards.
. . . But she was right. We didn't have the "green thing" in our day.
Back then we washed the baby's nappies because we didn't have the throw away kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy-gobbling machine burning up 220 volts. Wind & solar power really did dry our clothes back in our days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. . . . But that young lady is right; we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day.
Back then we had one radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And if anyone did own a TV, it had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of a football pitch. When cooking we blended & stirred by hand coz we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send by post, we used layers of old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity., , , , But she's right; we didn't have the "green thing" back then.
We drank from a tap or fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, & we replaced the razor blade in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull. But we didn't have the "green thing" back then. Back then, people took the bus & kids rode bikes to school or walked instead of turning their mothers into a 24-hour taxi service in the family's expensive car or van, which cost what a whole house did before the "green thing"..
Oh and we had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 23,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest leisure park.
. . . . But it so sad this current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the "green thing" back then? . . . I think you should forward this on to another selfish old person who needs a lesson in conservation from some smart !!! young person. .. ...
We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to !!!! us off... Especially from a tattooed, multiple pierced smart !!! who can't make change without the cash register telling them how much.

I'd hate to be stuck behind them in that queue