Massive majority for the Tories, Goodbye housing crash for now

jimi_man

Splatfoot wrote: »

What so, it's just about property and land? What about people? !!!!!!.

Well this thread is technically about House prices.....

Splatfoot

I suppose ��

triathlon

Splatfoot wrote: »

What so, it's just about property and land? What about people? !!!!!!.

What is it about democracy that so many of you people fail to understand, it was "people" that overwhelmingly gave Boris a mandate.

I am happy for one, and I am sure many others are

RelievedSheff

triathlon wrote: »

What is it about democracy that so many of you people fail to understand, it was "people" that overwhelmingly gave Boris a mandate.

I am happy for one, and I am sure many others are

Some people only like democracy when they get the result they want.:rotfl:

GDB2222

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Momentum is the problem not Corbyn. Wedded to an ideology that doesn't resonate.

I tend to agree. It may be a brilliant idea to nationalise the broadband network, but I really don't think many voters wake up in the morning thinking "If only one of the parties would nationalise broadband!"

A friend of mine told me she would vote for Boris, despite all his personal failings and despite her being a staunch Remainer, simply in order to get rid of the logjam that Brexit had become.

Her logic seemed to be:
We have to do something
Brexit is something
So let's do it

I'm sure that lots of other people took much the same view.

RelievedSheff

GDB2222 wrote: »

I tend to agree. It may be a brilliant idea to nationalise the broadband network, but I really don't think many voters wake up in the morning thinking "If only one of the parties would nationalise broadband!"

A friend of mine told me she would vote for Boris, despite all his personal failings and despite her being a staunch Remainer, simply in order to get rid of the logjam that Brexit had become.

Her logic seemed to be:
We have to do something
Brexit is something
So let's do it

I'm sure that lots of other people took much the same view.

I believe you are right.

I nearly fell off my chair this morning when I found out our constituency Bassetlaw had voted conservative. It has been Labour since the seat was created in the 1930's!

I think people just want Brexit over and done with so that as a country we can move on.

nigelbb

triathlon wrote: »

What is it about democracy that so many of you people fail to understand, it was "people" that overwhelmingly gave Boris a mandate.

Hardly an overwhelming mandate more a quirk of first past the post. The percentage share of the vote cast for the Tories increased from 42.4% in 2017 to just 43.6% yesterday while the actual number of votes increased by only 300K (out of a total of over 30 million) yet the number of Tory seats increased by about 50.

benbay001

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Momentum is the problem not Corbyn. Wedded to an ideology that doesn't resonate.

Yeh sorry, that was the point I was trying to make. Sorry if it didn't read that way. (it was early)

jimi_man

nigelbb wrote: »

Hardly an overwhelming mandate more a quirk of first past the post. The percentage share of the vote cast for the Tories increased from 42.4% in 2017 to just 43.6% yesterday while the actual number of votes increased by only 300K (out of a total of over 30 million) yet the number of Tory seats increased by about 50.

So what's the alternative? If you did it on number of votes cast then Tories would still have won quite convincingly. Or proportional representation? The Tories would still have had the most seats but not an overall majority, so another hung parliament/Coalition - which tends to be a feature of PR. However there was a vote for PR a few years back and it was rejected.

Under the rules that are in place, it WAS an overwhelming mandate.

Lokolo

triathlon wrote: »

I don't agree with Brexit, but I accept it. This result now shuts up the hard right in the Tories who want a no deal and we can now relax in the knowledge that we will still have close ties with the EU.

I'm not sure about this. If anything I think it will be the opposite. A lot of the remaining conservative MPs have strong links to the ERG. A lot of the strong Brexit supporters want a no deal. Or have this strange idea that we have the power in the negotiations.

I see us having closer ties with the US. And not in a good way. We will be taken for a ride. But at least we will be out of the EU.