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County Court Claim - OPS & DCB Legal

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  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    edited 3 July 2020 at 7:29PM
    Well done C-m   I think we have made it clear to DCBL not to get involved in rabble, they did not listen and with the help of OPS disgraced themselves

    Somewhat odd summary, telling the court all about the spanking of BWLegal for fakery ..... do OPS think they are different then.

    And fancy saying " that people might sabotage machines deliberately (to save 50p at their paid-for evening college, in front of CCTV...yeah, right!).  Thus, OPS say they ''couldn't'' offer free parking or people would take the mickey."

    Were you listening to children's hour
    So, OPS screw themselves ... as they do, and DCBL are screwed for bringing a claim they clearly knew nothing about.    Sad bunch of scammers
  • Coupon-mad
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    Just to add, I've been looking into the consumer law and next time, re a broken PDT machine case where the PPC fined the person due to their own failings and knew the machine was broken, I think we should mention Reg 3(3) of the CPUTRs, which creates an offence:

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2008/1277/regulation/3/made
    Prohibition of unfair commercial practices
    3.—(1) Unfair commercial practices are prohibited.
    (2) Paragraphs (3) and (4) set out the circumstances when a commercial practice is unfair.
    (3) A commercial practice is unfair if—
    (a) it contravenes the requirements of professional diligence; and
    (b) it materially distorts or is likely to materially distort the economic behaviour of the average consumer with regard to the product.*
    (4) A commercial practice is unfair if—
    (a) it is a misleading action under the provisions of regulation 5;
    (b) it is a misleading omission under the provisions of regulation 6;
    (c) it is aggressive under the provisions of regulation 7; or
    (d) it is listed in Schedule 1.


    An explanation I found elsewhere:

    General duty not to trade unfairly

    Regulation 3 is called "Prohibition of unfair commercial practices", which effectively means failing to act in accordance with reasonable expectations of acceptable trading practice.  

    The regulation prohibits practices that:

    • contravene the requirements of professional diligence (defined as the standard of special skill and care that a trader may reasonably be expected to exercise towards consumers, which is commensurate with either honest market practice in the trader's field of activity or the general principle of good faith in the trader's field of activity)
    • materially distort the economic behaviour of the average consumer (or are likely to) with regard to the product * - that is, appreciably to impair the average consumer's ability to make an informed decision, thereby causing them to take a transactional decision that they would not have taken otherwise


    * in the CPUTRs, ''product'' has a wide definition, so for 'product' read 'service'.
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  • 1505grandad
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    Just a thought - too much to hope that this may also cover cases involving the various anpr failings?
  • D_P_Dance
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  • Le_Kirk
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    Brilliant (and a good court report) - another feather in @Coupon-mad's cap - you'll soon need a new cap!
  • Umkomaas
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    edited 4 July 2020 at 8:55AM
    What a load of tosh that OPS summary is!
    In my opinion the BPA code of practice should be considered as a statutory document because Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (POFA-12) mandates that operators are bound by the AOS (Approved Operator Scheme) in order to be an Approved Operator and to have access to the DVLA (Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency) KADOE (Keeper at Date of Event) server, and to exercise the right of pursuing the registered keeper (if applicable).
    The Code of Practice a statutory document? F F S!

    Well done CM. 👏
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • beamerguy
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    Le_Kirk said:
    Brilliant (and a good court report) - another feather in @Coupon-mad's cap - you'll soon need a new cap!
    I think we should save up for a new, long life whooping stick for Coupon :)
  • D_P_Dance
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    Is not an SI scrutinised by  Parliament .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_instrument_(UK) 
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  • retropeck
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    Hi all,

    I just wanted to say huge thank you to everyone that helped out from this forum, especially CM who practically held my hand through the latter stages of putting the WS and evidence together and then speaking for me on the telephone hearing. 

    This whole case has stressed me out considerably throughout and there has been a few times where I was close to caving in and paying up. With the help of everyone here I managed to get through all the stages that seemed overwhelming and learn the legal terms needed. I'm sure there's other people like myself that would be thinking the same and all I would say is speak to people here, keep on top of dates & deadlines, reread the newbies thread 37 times and see it through!

    I don't need to go in to detail on the hearing as CM has covered it thoroughly, but as mentioned the Judge dismissed the claim within 10 minutes (once he had the WS's in front of him). OPS tried to defend their claim but were shut down. Given we had already won, the Judge asked CM if there was anything they would like to add to which they went on full attack and detailed each and every point we had raised in our defence & WS. Very impressive and shows the true determination on bringing these guys down.

    Again thanks everyone, and if anyone else going through the same has any questions I would be happy to help where I can.

    Cheers
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