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County Court Claim - OPS & DCB Legal

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  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    edited 28 December 2019 at 10:11AM
    retropeck wrote: »
    Thanks for this, I will file a complaint to my MP also.

    Also the SRA ... https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/problems.page

    YES Worthing for your hearing

    DCBL are going down the same miserable route as BWLegal where they cannot defend Abuse of process because the law is not on their side

    DCBL will learn the hard way
  • KeithP
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    retropeck wrote: »
    Although the PCN was at Chichester College in West Sussex, I reside in East Hampshire. I'm happy to travel to Worthing if it means help in the matter, how would I request court to be assigned to Worthing, or is this not an option?
    Later in the process - see Bargepole's 'what happens when' post linked from post #2 of the NEWBIES thread - you get to choose where any hearing is held.
  • Coupon-mad
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    Although the PCN was at Chichester College in West Sussex, I reside in East Hampshire. I'm happy to travel to Worthing if it means help in the matter, how would I request court to be assigned to Worthing, or is this not an option?
    State in your N180 Directions Questionnaire (you know what happens when, from the NEWBIES thread) that you require Worthing Court as your college is near there and it will be easier for you to attend...(yes I know...don't say it!).
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Great thanks, are there any tweaks recommended on that revised defence before I send it across?

    Many thanks
  • 1505grandad
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    Just checking - para 13 - "The standard wording for parking charge/debt recovery contracts is/was on the Debt Recovery Plus website - ''no recovery/no fee'', thus establishing an argument that the Claimant is breaching the indemnity principle - claiming reimbursement for a cost which has never, in fact, been incurred."

    is Debt Recovery Plus actually involved?
  • Good spot thanks, no Debt Recovery Plus aren't involved. Letters I've had so far are from;

    ZZPS Ltd
    QDR Solicitors Ltd
    DCB Legal Ltd
    DCBL Ltd

    I can't see anywhere on DCBL's website that they offer no recovery, no fee so I have deleted that part from para 13:

    13. The Defendant has the reasonable belief that the Claimant has not incurred an additional £60 in damages or costs to pursue an alleged £80 debt. Alleging that the letters the parking firm sent have caused an additional loss, is simply untrue. Whether or not they used a third party debt collector during the process, parking charges (unlike other 'debt' claims) must by definition, already encompass the costs of the operation.
  • Coupon-mad
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    Sounds good.

    Also attach a copy of DJ Grand's order from Southampton - see CEC16's thread - and DDJ Joseph's Warwick order (see CrystalTips' thread). High time Judges saw these up front.
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  • Great thanks, will send it tonight. Is there a copy of DJ Grand's order or should I use your report? I've found the copy of DDJ Joseph's order to attach.
  • Coupon-mad
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    Use DJ Grand's original order from the Summer, that's in the Abuse of Process thread, as the more recent one is really short and can be added later.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • beamerguy
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    edited 30 December 2019 at 10:30AM
    retropeck wrote: »
    Good spot thanks, no Debt Recovery Plus aren't involved. Letters I've had so far are from;

    ZZPS Ltd
    QDR Solicitors Ltd
    DCB Legal Ltd
    DCBL Ltd


    I can't see anywhere on DCBL's website that they offer no recovery, no fee so I have deleted that part from para 13:

    13. The Defendant has the reasonable belief that the Claimant has not incurred an additional £60 in damages or costs to pursue an alleged £80 debt. Alleging that the letters the parking firm sent have caused an additional loss, is simply untrue. Whether or not they used a third party debt collector during the process, parking charges (unlike other 'debt' claims) must by definition, already encompass the costs of the operation.

    It is amazing that the above gringos, part of the Wild Bunch scammers operating, really do think they can all break the law.?

    There is no reasonable belief ....... whether or not the PPC gets charged by fairy tale debt collectors really does not matter, the Supreme court made a ruling that it is very clear that the ticket price includes the costs of the PPC.

    No county court judge is above the judge's of the Supreme court

    DCBL Law have NO AUTHORITY TO ADD A FAKE AMOUNT and the judge should be asked about their authority ??? they have none

    Recently. BWLegal said it was allowed by the code of practice.
    That is so much rubbish, the CoP ONLY APPLIES to members of the ATA's which does not apply to the motorists let alone a judge.

    What these Wild Bunch DO NOT have is the authority because there is none.

    Understand the junk written by the BPA and IPC
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6083229

    All links are updated in the ABUSE OF PROCESS thread where you can find everything you need to know to spank them

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081
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