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PCN escalated to Court proceedings **EDIT - I WON**

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  • I could only find Steven John Pettit as a director at Premier Park Ltd.
  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    It's more than that OP

    Read again
    the company listed does not exist. So their "contract" is with no one.  
  • Here are just a selection of poor assed photos they put in their WS, I know it is a photo copy but even my printer is better than this.



  • It's more than that OP

    Read again
    the company listed does not exist. So their "contract" is with no one.  
    Well that is interesting, now I am assuming that will hold a lot of weight in court?
    What would my arguing point be, No agreement full stop or that the company doesn't exist or both ? 
  • Fruitcake
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    edited 8 August 2020 at 12:26AM
    Fruitcake said:
    So we have a contract that is not with the landowner. 
    There is no contract flowing from the landowner to the scammers because there is no contract between the landowner and CBRE Investments Limited authorising CBRE to form a contract on behalf of the landowner with the scammers.
    This Perry person is not a director of the landowner.
    This Perry person may not be a director of CBRE Investments Limited.
    A PETTIT is not a director of the claimant.

    In case number F1DP92KF, District Judge Simon Middleton said in Truro County Court on the 3rd of July 2020 that "Claire Williams could not have signed the contract on behalf of the owner because she is not a director of the owner."

    This applies to both parties in the scammer's alleged contract because neither of them were directors of the owner nor claimant. 



    Ah, so I can argue that they have no authority to issue PCN as no agreement with the landowner exists?
    ... and all the other points. Spell them all out like I have done above plus the other comments.

    Not the landowner.
    No landowner authority with or flowing from the landowner. 
    Client does not exist (CBRE Investors). c/o means care of, which just means the alleged client is using another company's address for service.
    Companies Act 2006 authorised signature failures including the judgement I quoted.
    Redactions in contract and the judgement from the court of appeal (persuasive) case.


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  • beamerguy
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    I am getting the impression that the incompetent BWLegal don't have a clue what's going on ?? Not unusual for BWLegal.

  • Well, thank you all for the additional information on the agreement, I will add everything to my points I am already arguing & the other law breaking points Coupon-mad has pointed out for me for my WS.
    After the trial, is there any information that would be useful to put on here afterwards, besides hopefully, the fact that I spanked Premier Park Ltd & BW all the way to the bank.
  • Umkomaas
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    After the trial, is there any information that would be useful to put on here afterwards,
    A court report - the result(!), court location, Judge's name, court claim number, did the PPC field an advocate, what did they have to say, what did you say, what did the Judge say, on what point(s) did the Judge make his/her decision, did you get your costs (ordinary and additional) ......
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Fruitcake
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    Please keep an eye on the forum over the next couple of weeks as the draft mandatory CoP should be available for public consultation. We need as many people as possible to comment on it so get your friends and family involved as well.
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