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  • JKenH
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    Electric van uptake rises 85.9% in September


    Demand for battery electric vans (BEVs) in September surged, with deliveries up 85.9% to 2,882 units – accounting for one in 16 new vans (6.4% market share) registered in the month. This was supported by the Plug-in Van Grant, competitive running costs and increasing model choice; a total of 25 zero-emission van models are now available in the UK.

    For the year to date, a record 14,296 electric vans have been registered, taking 5.5% of the overall market.

    https://fleetworld.co.uk/electric-van-uptake-rises-85-9-in-september/
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  • Martyn1981
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    Some global numbers for BEV's in August. Looking really good, 13% BEV, plus 5% PHEV's for an 18% PEV share.

    I think the next 5yrs are going to be dramatic. Hopefully UK sales will be around 40% to 50% PEV in late 2025.

    World EV Sales Now Equal 18% Of World Auto Sales

    Global plugin vehicle registrations were up 45% in August 2023 compared to August 2022, rising to 1,238,00 units. In the end, plugins represented 18% share of the overall auto market (with a 13% BEV share alone). This means that the global automotive market is firmly in the Electric Disruption Zone*. Add over 800,000 units coming from plugless hybrids and we have one quarter of global registrations having some form of electrification! (*People have asked me what the “Electric Disruption Zone” is. Basically, it is the steepest part of the tech adoption S-curve. Between 10–20% and 80–90% market share growth will accelerate, and then it will slow down on the way to 100%.)

    Full electric vehicles (BEVs) represented 71% of plugin registrations in August, keeping the year-to-date tally at 70% share.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • Martyn1981
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    This BEV truck looks to be a decent package from Mercedes. [And Volvo produce quite a selection too.]

    Mercedes unveils Tesla Semi rival eActros 600 with 311-mile range

    Mercedes unveiled the eActros 600 on Tuesday, set to go on sale near the end of this year, according to the automaker (via Bloomberg). The electric semi and Tesla Semi competitor will feature a range of 500 kilometers (311 miles) per charge while carrying as much as 22 tons in cargo. It’s expected to take just 30 minutes to charge from 20 to 80 percent, which the company says is roughly equal to the electricity needed to power approximately 1,000 households.

    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • michaels
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    Back from a long weekend in Swanage when traffic in each direction conveniently allowed the TM3 to travel between 60 and 70 mph. Usually completed in the Leaf then for the first time we had no need to add any charge enroute. Total over the weekend 463 miles with 98 kWh's energy consumed.  211 W's/mile so similar to that returned by the Leaf, but with the advantage of a better performance and longer range.
    Given similar speeds it is surprising how much faster we appear to be travelling in the Tesla compared to the Leaf, perhaps being closer to the tarmac gives this illusion.
    On the return leg called at Cobham Extra Services for a comfort break I noticed the 6 Ionity charge points barricaded off with pneumatic drills hammering away and thinking that the remaining Gridserve pumps would all be in use, was surprised to find that only two bays with cars being charged, and this around mid-day.

    Good news also upon arrival home where an email from Indra was waiting, advising that the local DNO had approved our application for V2H. Just waiting for an install date so that after it's five years probation the Leaf will then be able to realise it's full potential.
    Guess I'll have to correct my signature appendix once it's all up and running!


    Well done joining the trial - we are just reaching the 12 m point of V2H after 2 years of V2G - our average unit price for electricity over the 12 months is about 8p, would have been below 7p but we used quite a lot of expensive daytime electricity over last winter making a £200 plus profit on the turn down and save system.  We also saved more by using 4.5p overnight electricity instead of 10.6p gas for space and water heating during the cheap rate period. This year if all works properly we (and hopefully you) will instead be able to make a few hundred quid on turn down and save as they are paying for export :)
    I think....
  • Martyn1981
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    Back from a long weekend in Swanage when traffic in each direction conveniently allowed the TM3 to travel between 60 and 70 mph. Usually completed in the Leaf then for the first time we had no need to add any charge enroute. Total over the weekend 463 miles with 98 kWh's energy consumed.  211 W's/mile so similar to that returned by the Leaf, but with the advantage of a better performance and longer range.
    Given similar speeds it is surprising how much faster we appear to be travelling in the Tesla compared to the Leaf, perhaps being closer to the tarmac gives this illusion.
    On the return leg called at Cobham Extra Services for a comfort break I noticed the 6 Ionity charge points barricaded off with pneumatic drills hammering away and thinking that the remaining Gridserve pumps would all be in use, was surprised to find that only two bays with cars being charged, and this around mid-day.

    Good news also upon arrival home where an email from Indra was waiting, advising that the local DNO had approved our application for V2H. Just waiting for an install date so that after it's five years probation the Leaf will then be able to realise it's full potential.
    Guess I'll have to correct my signature appendix once it's all up and running!


    You and GC are getting far too much efficiency. I'm going to pretend it's because you have the later models of the TM3, and not because I drove ours 'enthusiastically'.  ;)

    Certainly not confirmation, but your results suggest that my guess that BEV cars may have a net impact on the grid of 4miles/kWh, is at least possible in the medium/longer term. I am assuming that efficiency of all makes and models will improve towards Tesla levels, plus other BEV's will be lighter, with smaller batts for city driving. Our 28kWh IONIQ is still averaging 4.8m/kWh on the road, so with realisatic grid and charger losses, 4m/kWh demand on the grid may be doable.

    No wonder the National Grid has no fear of BEV's.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • Netexporter
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    Back from a long weekend in Swanage when traffic in each direction conveniently allowed the TM3 to travel between 60 and 70 mph. Usually completed in the Leaf then for the first time we had no need to add any charge enroute. Total over the weekend 463 miles with 98 kWh's energy consumed.  211 W's/mile so similar to that returned by the Leaf, but with the advantage of a better performance and longer range.
    Given similar speeds it is surprising how much faster we appear to be travelling in the Tesla compared to the Leaf, perhaps being closer to the tarmac gives this illusion.
    On the return leg called at Cobham Extra Services for a comfort break I noticed the 6 Ionity charge points barricaded off with pneumatic drills hammering away and thinking that the remaining Gridserve pumps would all be in use, was surprised to find that only two bays with cars being charged, and this around mid-day.

    Good news also upon arrival home where an email from Indra was waiting, advising that the local DNO had approved our application for V2H. Just waiting for an install date so that after it's five years probation the Leaf will then be able to realise it's full potential.
    Guess I'll have to correct my signature appendix once it's all up and running!


    You and GC are getting far too much efficiency. I'm going to pretend it's because you have the later models of the TM3, and not because I drove ours 'enthusiastically'.  ;)

    Certainly not confirmation, but your results suggest that my guess that BEV cars may have a net impact on the grid of 4miles/kWh, is at least possible in the medium/longer term. I am assuming that efficiency of all makes and models will improve towards Tesla levels, plus other BEV's will be lighter, with smaller batts for city driving. Our 28kWh IONIQ is still averaging 4.8m/kWh on the road, so with realisatic grid and charger losses, 4m/kWh demand on the grid may be doable.

    No wonder the National Grid has no fear of BEV's.
    I regularly get 4.5m/kWh from my MG5. In fact I consider myself to have failed if I get less. However, I've only experienced summer driving, so far, until this morning. Did a 160ish mile round trip, in pouring rain, with flooded roads, this morning but managed to scrape home at 4.1m/kWh with just 2% left in the battery. Luckily there's lots of virtually free leccy to fill it back up, this weekend.
  • Grumpy_chap
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    for the first time we had no need to add any charge enroute. Total over the weekend 463 miles 

    Thanks for sharing.

    I have been wondering whether I'd need to charge when we take our long weekend to Great Yarmouth at the end of the month.  We will be looking at 342 miles for the round trip plus whatever we might do locally, which should be minimal as I like just walking and not using the car once away.  On top of that we will have whatever losses occur over the 4 days.  Based on your experience, we'll be able to do the whole weekend with bags to spare.

    I have to admit that I am finding it exciting to consider this trip either way - it is either an opportunity to prove available range or I get to us the super-chargers for the first time which will also be a novel experience.  I have not yet had to charge away from home and starting to wonder whether the opportunity will ever present itself for me to use those 6k SC miles that were included as incentive when buying the car.

    As a side note, your 463 miles is more range than we can get from my wife's Fiesta on a tank of petrol. 
    In fact, my Focus, which I regularly ran from full to fumes, achieved a maximum range of 554 miles as the outlier over more than 140k miles.  There is a more common cluster "range" topping out at 474 miles.
    Going back over previous cars, my Mondeo achieved 549 miles max range between fuel stops over 120k miles, again running full to fumes.
    My Auris Hybrid has a cluster just below 600 miles range - the outlier is 621 miles.
    IIRC, my Xsara diesel was quite a fair bit longer on range, but I cannot locate the spreadsheet for that right now.
    We certainly do seem to be reaching the point where EV range can be demonstrated to be more than a match for petrol.
  • JKenH
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    Impressive growth in EV sales from VAG.


    Volkswagen Group delivers 45 percent more all-electric vehicles in first 9 months


    The Volkswagen Group has systematically continued its transformation in the first nine months of 2023. All-electric deliveries increased by 45 percent to 531,500 vehicles globally, raising the BEV share of total deliveries to 7.9 percent after 6.1 percent in the prior year period. In the third quarter alone, the BEV share climbed to 9.0 percent compared to 6.8 percent one year ago. From January to September, Europe remained the key growth driver with an increase of 61 percent to 341,100 vehicles. 

    Northern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)
  • Martyn1981
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    for the first time we had no need to add any charge enroute. Total over the weekend 463 miles 

    Thanks for sharing.

    I have been wondering whether I'd need to charge when we take our long weekend to Great Yarmouth at the end of the month.  We will be looking at 342 miles for the round trip plus whatever we might do locally, which should be minimal as I like just walking and not using the car once away.  On top of that we will have whatever losses occur over the 4 days.  Based on your experience, we'll be able to do the whole weekend with bags to spare.

    I have to admit that I am finding it exciting to consider this trip either way - it is either an opportunity to prove available range or I get to us the super-chargers for the first time which will also be a novel experience.  I have not yet had to charge away from home and starting to wonder whether the opportunity will ever present itself for me to use those 6k SC miles that were included as incentive when buying the car.

    As a side note, your 463 miles is more range than we can get from my wife's Fiesta on a tank of petrol. 
    In fact, my Focus, which I regularly ran from full to fumes, achieved a maximum range of 554 miles as the outlier over more than 140k miles.  There is a more common cluster "range" topping out at 474 miles.
    Going back over previous cars, my Mondeo achieved 549 miles max range between fuel stops over 120k miles, again running full to fumes.
    My Auris Hybrid has a cluster just below 600 miles range - the outlier is 621 miles.
    IIRC, my Xsara diesel was quite a fair bit longer on range, but I cannot locate the spreadsheet for that right now.
    We certainly do seem to be reaching the point where EV range can be demonstrated to be more than a match for petrol.
    Hiya GC. If you have free SC miles, and there are SC's on your route, then wouldn't it be better to charge on route than 'buy' the miles on your home leccy bill?
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
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