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michaels

I don't go out and stop the traffic but I do avoid long haul (or any) flights and have found the money (actually it was a saving overall) to get an electric car and use it to take my kids to their football matches.  We also eat less meat, smaller portions and choose the least co2 intensive types and substitute vegetarian alternatives where we can afford it.

I also believe each of us should do our bit regardless of what others do both in the UK and abroad and even though it is almost certainly hopeless.

And yes it is hypocrisy in the extreme of the ER leader, a typical politician, do as I say not as I do.

JKenH

Solarchaser said:

I think you captured the essence of the right wing psyche right there.

That quote appeared in a Guardian article by George Monbiot advocating mass civil disobedience. The comment was not aimed solely at those who are considered to be right wing but rather at  “people [who] discover more inventive means of shutting their eyes and shedding responsibility.”

Only rebellion will prevent an ecological apocalypse

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/15/rebellion-prevent-ecological-apocalypse-civil-disobedience?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Those who seek to make climate change a right/left issue do themselves and the whole world a disservice. 

JKenH

First UK wireless charging trial to begin in Nottingham

While we’re proud that Nottingham’s taxi fleet already boasts a large number of electric taxis, wireless charging is the next step to make them even more convenient and easier for drivers to use – and no need for cables on our taxi ranks.

https://www.traffictechnologytoday.com/news/electric-vehicles-ev-infrastructure/first-uk-wireless-charging-trial-to-begin-in-nottingham.html

Solarchaser

shinytop said:

Solarchaser said:

I think you captured the essence of the right wing psyche right there.

How is it right wing to point out that long haul flights and diesel cars are inconsistent with Ms Bradbrook's outspoken views as a spokesperson for Extinction Rebellion?  A petrol car and a UK yoga retreat (without the drugs obvs) would not have attracted any comment.  It's similar to Allegra Stratton not having an EV.  Both are naive and should have know better.  

I broadly agree with the point I think your quote is trying to make btw.   

I think it's clearly the fact that one person once a couple of years having a long haul flight for a medical reason (so she said) isn't the same as multiple flights a month as a business user.
And unless she is also shown to have a 70k salary, I'm not sure it is comparable to ms. Stratton.

But yes, it was the drug reference essentially saying that she was simply one of "those, you know whats" and her drug adled state wouldn't know about anything, which prompted me to respond to your point. 

I do agree it would be better if she had a petrol car... but if that's a fairly new diesel that she was sold on the premise of ultra low emissions, then surely you would be looking at the liar rather than the lied to? The manufacturer, not the purchaser?

Just to be clear, I'm no supporter of extinction rebellion, and though I understand their point, I dont agree with their methods.

If "we" know that Ms. Bradbrook is also in a £70k salary, id switch my position entirely. 
It's the means to change that makes the difference in my opinion.

JKenH

Solarchaser said:

shinytop said:

Solarchaser said:

I think you captured the essence of the right wing psyche right there.

How is it right wing to point out that long haul flights and diesel cars are inconsistent with Ms Bradbrook's outspoken views as a spokesperson for Extinction Rebellion?  A petrol car and a UK yoga retreat (without the drugs obvs) would not have attracted any comment.  It's similar to Allegra Stratton not having an EV.  Both are naive and should have know better.  

I broadly agree with the point I think your quote is trying to make btw.   

I think it's clearly the fact that one person once a couple of years having a long haul flight for a medical reason (so she said) isn't the same as multiple flights a month as a business user.
And unless she is also shown to have a 70k salary, I'm not sure it is comparable to ms. Stratton.

But yes, it was the drug reference essentially saying that she was simply one of "those, you know whats" and her drug adled state wouldn't know about anything, which prompted me to respond to your point. 

I do agree it would be better if she had a petrol car... but if that's a fairly new diesel that she was sold on the premise of ultra low emissions, then surely you would be looking at the liar rather than the lied to? The manufacturer, not the purchaser?

Just to be clear, I'm no supporter of extinction rebellion, and though I understand their point, I dont agree with their methods.

If "we" know that Ms. Bradbrook is also in a £70k salary, id switch my position entirely. 
It's the means to change that makes the difference in my opinion.

Actually it is Dr. Bradbrook and she is a microbiologist. I would imagine she is probably earning above the average wage, unless she is devoting all her time to XR, she probably could afford a used Leaf to get her kids to their rugby matches.

Solarchaser

JKenH said:

Solarchaser said:

shinytop said:

Solarchaser said:

I think you captured the essence of the right wing psyche right there.

How is it right wing to point out that long haul flights and diesel cars are inconsistent with Ms Bradbrook's outspoken views as a spokesperson for Extinction Rebellion?  A petrol car and a UK yoga retreat (without the drugs obvs) would not have attracted any comment.  It's similar to Allegra Stratton not having an EV.  Both are naive and should have know better.  

I broadly agree with the point I think your quote is trying to make btw.   

I think it's clearly the fact that one person once a couple of years having a long haul flight for a medical reason (so she said) isn't the same as multiple flights a month as a business user.
And unless she is also shown to have a 70k salary, I'm not sure it is comparable to ms. Stratton.

But yes, it was the drug reference essentially saying that she was simply one of "those, you know whats" and her drug adled state wouldn't know about anything, which prompted me to respond to your point. 

I do agree it would be better if she had a petrol car... but if that's a fairly new diesel that she was sold on the premise of ultra low emissions, then surely you would be looking at the liar rather than the lied to? The manufacturer, not the purchaser?

Just to be clear, I'm no supporter of extinction rebellion, and though I understand their point, I dont agree with their methods.

If "we" know that Ms. Bradbrook is also in a £70k salary, id switch my position entirely. 
It's the means to change that makes the difference in my opinion.

Actually it is Dr. Bradbrook and she is a microbiologist. I would imagine she is probably earning above the average wage, unless she is devoting all her time to XR, she probably could afford a used Leaf to get her kids to their rugby matches.

There's a couple of probably's in their and a whole lot of assumption. 

As someone who works with rather a lot of PhD doctors,  I can inform you that your assumption is *probably*  incorrect. 

Martyn1981

Australia is quite a bit behind the curve when it comes to BEV's, but things are improving quite fast(ish).

Electric Vehicles Getting Ready To Rocket In Australia

The Australian Electric Vehicles Association (AEVA) has moved its reporting schedule from once a year to twice a year. The EV landscape is changing so fast that they need to report more often. The current report highlights that more EVs have been sold in the Australian vehicle market in the last 6 months than in the whole of last year. Please note — all speculation in this article about the future is just my opinion, extrapolated from the data in the report. It seems likely that Australia will start the steep climb up the S curve within the next 18 months.

Last year, the EV share of Australia’s overall auto market was 0.78%. It is now approaching 2%, and should be more so by the end of the year. From the fourth quarter, many new models of EVs will become available in Australia, including 8 from BYD. This will lead to a tripling of available EV models. The BYD EA1 (Dolphin) will become the cheapest EV available in Australia, eclipsing the MG ZS EV. These are mainly BEV sedans and SUVs. Things will really hot up when we get electric utes with V2x. 

JKenH

You’re probably right. She’s got a PhD but appears to be the eternal student at war with society - the cause is irrelevant. 

This is what she said in an interview in 2020

“Speaking of the lead-up to the group’s formation, Bradbrook speaks of her past as a Green party member and her interest in issues such as tax avoidance.

“I’ve always been interested in social change,” she states. “It’s really hard to find people to do civil disobedience with, it turns out.”

Through her and Hallam’s involvement with Rising Up, they “…tested some tactics…learnt some things about social movements and how to get them going…Eventually, we said ‘right, let’s try to start a rebellion’.”

https://studentnewspaper.org//article/the-espresso-series-an-interview-with-extinction-rebellion-co-founder-dr-gail-bradbrook

In another interview in 2019

“I was involved in the animal rights movement as a young woman, I've been involved in thinking about gender and issues around racism and so on.

“I'd been focused on trying to start civil disobedience since 2010 and I've tried many things and they didn't work, so I went on a retreat and prayed in a deep way with some psychedelic medicines.

It was a really intense experience and I actually prayed for what I called the codes for social change, I thought there must be something I don't understand, and within a month my prayer was literally answered.”

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/extinction-rebellion-started-group-12-16845727

Coastalwatch

Scotland charging ahead when it comes to accommodating Bev's and Renewables in general. I would imagine the air to be cleaner there than the rest of the UK simply down to a low population density compared to the rest of the UK. Seems like they're not resting on their laurels either!

Solar-plus-storage-powered EV charging hub opens in Stirling

A low carbon transport hub featuring solar PV, a Tesla battery storage system and a range of electric vehicle (EV) chargers has been developed by FES Support Services on behalf of Stirling Council.

The site consists of six overhead solar canopies made of 865 Sunpower 320W solar modules, with these expected to generate 210,000kWh annually. A Tesla Powerpack has also been installed on site with a storage capacity of 446kWh, with this to allow all car chargers on site to be used at the same time.

The solar and storage have gone in alongside six rapid chargepoints (43/50kW), 18 fast chargepoints (22kW) and 40 slow chargepoints (7kW).

The site is the second project in the A9 Electrification Scheme delivered by FES Support Services. It received over £1 million of funding through Transport Scotland’s Low Carbon Travel and Transport (LCTT) Challenge Fund, which is part funded by the European Regional Development Fund (ERDF).

https://www.solarpowerportal.co.uk/news/solar_plus_storage_powered_ev_charging_hub_opens_in_stirling

shinytop

More public EV charging is great and this looks like a good facility. But I'm not sure how significant the solar contribution is; 210,000 kWh is not much compared with the potential output of 64 EV chargers is it?  (I assume it will also use mains leccy when the batteries run out).  OTOH, net zero is about incremental changes so every little helps.  I assume the battery can be charged off peak too? Just thinking out loud...