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Musk weighs in on Waymo versus Tesla autonomous driving
Northern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)0 -
Martyn1981 said:EVandPV said:
Electric family cars are CHEAPER to own than petrol and diesel models: Lower maintenance and charging costs mean they are £132-a-month less expensive
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-8807221/Are-electric-family-cars-cheaper-petrol-diesel.htmlNorthern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)2 -
JKenH said:Martyn1981 said:EVandPV said:
Electric family cars are CHEAPER to own than petrol and diesel models: Lower maintenance and charging costs mean they are £132-a-month less expensive
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-8807221/Are-electric-family-cars-cheaper-petrol-diesel.html
On the other hand it's a good sign perhaps that even here reality is starting to seep through.Solar install June 2022, Bath
4.8 kW array, Growatt SPH5000 inverter, 1x Seplos Mason 280L V3 battery 15.2 kWh.
SSW roof. ~22° pitch, BISF house. 12 x 400W Hyundai panels2 -
Extracts from this week's Carbon Commentary Newsletter:7, Electric pick-up trucks. I thought it was courageous of the electric pick-up manufacturer Rivian to allow one of the first of the trucks off its production line to enter a competitive rally. (It has to be admitted that new very rapid charging points were built to enable it to take part). When I last looked, the pick-up was in third place out of 30 trucks in the competition, which tests navigation skills rather than speed. Rivian looks a powerful contender among smaller electric commercial vehicles having had investment and a reported 100,000 unit order from Amazon. The contrast with the troubled Nikola is stark.
10, Hydrogen buses. The debate is not whether buses should be electrified; they clearly should be, particularly in polluted cities. But should they use batteries or hydrogen fuel cells? Aberdeen in Scotland welcomed the first of 15 fuel cell buses made by WrightBus in Northern Ireland to cover its main routes. The English city of Birmingham will follow with 20 next year. The advantage of these buses is the shorter recharging time (5-10 minutes) and a longer range than most battery equivalents. But the Aberdeen buses had a subsidy of about £500,000/$650,000 a bus, partly from the European Union, a source which will no longer be available in eleven weeks time. (An inexpensive diesel bus costs about half this amount). The owner of WrightBus, Jo Bamford, says it is a matter of scale: ‘If you came to me with an order for 3,000 buses, I could get the bus to cost the same as a diesel’. In other countries, the growth of battery buses continues with the Chinese manufacturer BYD taking a large role in the supply. Finland just purchased another 106 vehicles, saying that the typical range is about 400km. My guess is that however fast hydrogen fuel cell buses can improve, battery buses will improve more quickly.Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.
For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.2 -
ed110220 said:JKenH said:Martyn1981 said:EVandPV said:
Electric family cars are CHEAPER to own than petrol and diesel models: Lower maintenance and charging costs mean they are £132-a-month less expensive
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-8807221/Are-electric-family-cars-cheaper-petrol-diesel.html
On the other hand it's a good sign perhaps that even here reality is starting to seep through.
It is a slow process but change is happening. A lot of older people have lived through a lot of changes in their lifetime and are cynical about what scientists and politicians say because they have seen so many about turns. As an example look at how advice has changed on consumption of fat over the decades.
Old habits die hard. As an example the perception exists that the Mail and the Telegraph oppose EVs and no matter how many articles are posted demonstrating otherwise some people will look for ways to support that long held misconception because that belief is ingrained in them and they are reluctant to change it. It is like that with people who diss EVs. If you have spent the last few years rubbishing them along with your mates you continue to do so even though the facts on which you based your original case have changed.Northern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)1 -
I know he said it was coming this month but still surprised.Northern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)0
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EVandPV said:
Electric family cars are CHEAPER to own than petrol and diesel models: Lower maintenance and charging costs mean they are £132-a-month less expensive
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-8807221/Are-electric-family-cars-cheaper-petrol-diesel.html0 -
buglawton said:EVandPV said:
Electric family cars are CHEAPER to own than petrol and diesel models: Lower maintenance and charging costs mean they are £132-a-month less expensive
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-8807221/Are-electric-family-cars-cheaper-petrol-diesel.htmlScott in Fife, 2.9kwp pv SSW facing, 2.7kw Fronius inverter installed Jan 2012 - 14.3kwh Seplos Mason battery storage with Lux ac controller - Renault Zoe 40kwh, Corsa-e 50kwh, Zappi EV charger and Octopus Go2 -
Martyn1981 said:EVandPV said:
Electric family cars are CHEAPER to own than petrol and diesel models: Lower maintenance and charging costs mean they are £132-a-month less expensive
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-8807221/Are-electric-family-cars-cheaper-petrol-diesel.html
Facts like in this article in today's DT?
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-daily-telegraph/20201012/281861530974056
Electric car insurance costs drivers up to 62pc more
"Shopping around reduces the difference but electric cars cost more to buy so may often attract higher-priced premiums, said GoCompare."
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buglawton said:Facts like in this article in today's DT?
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-daily-telegraph/20201012/281861530974056
Electric car insurance costs drivers up to 62pc more
FWIW, my BEV insurance is no more than my gas-guzzler's was.NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq55
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