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Thrugelmir

BobQ wrote: »

Automation will reduce the time people spend working.

Automation will ultimately reduce the requirement for unskilled labour. Touch screen ordering systems and fully automated pizza ovens being a couple of examples. Head count can erased not just reduced.

John_Smith_2019

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Automation will ultimately reduce the requirement for unskilled labour. Touch screen ordering systems and fully automated pizza ovens being a couple of examples. Head count can erased not just reduced.

People have been saying this for 200 years.
Yet still there is no robot that can clean my house or take my dishes out of the dishwasher and put them into my cupboards.

snowqueen555

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Automation will ultimately reduce the requirement for unskilled labour. Touch screen ordering systems and fully automated pizza ovens being a couple of examples. Head count can erased not just reduced.

Technology has made things efficient, but that has never translated into us needing to work less. Human nature I guess to endlessly pursue accumulation of resources and wealth. Those at the top get all the spoils.

Arklight

John_Smith_2019 wrote: »

People have been saying this for 200 years.
Yet still there is no robot that can clean my house or take my dishes out of the dishwasher and put them into my cupboards.

No, because those are complicated operations which require visual-spatial abilities that are well beyond current AI. No engineer has any idea what your kitchen is like., what might be left on the floor, or where you may choose to keep your mugs.

There are plenty of things that aren't, however. Some restaurants in the US have done away with servers to a large extent. You order from an iPad and someone brings you what you wanted. You then pay with a credit card, on the iPad, and leave. There's minimal human interaction in something that used to involve a lot.

Initially people hate it, it's like self service tills at supermarkets. But after a while you get used to your order never being wrong, being able to place it exactly when you want and have it how you like, and there being no need to wait for someone to bring you a bill. Then that's the norm. Personal service is something you will only get in higher end places.

There's already no particular need for many kitchen staff in fast food restaurants. All the food is cooked the same in the same way. Before long the automated ordering at McDonald's entrances will just go through to a machine in the kitchen.

That's an awful lot of jobs that will be going. They aren't great, they aren't well paid, but they employ a lot of people.

Thrugelmir

John_Smith_2019 wrote: »

Yet still there is no robot that can clean my house or take my dishes out of the dishwasher and put them into my cupboards.

That's not paid work though.

Thrugelmir

snowqueen555 wrote: »

Technology has made things efficient, but that has never translated into us needing to work less.

We've created the retail experience to fill the void.

John_Smith_2019

Thrugelmir wrote: »

That's not paid work though.

It can be. If I decided to pay a cleaner / housekeeper.

SmashedAvacado

Automation is coming in a way you cannot imagine.
Just look at the automotive industry - based on where we are now with driver-less cars its not unreasonable to predict that within 20 years we will have no more driving jobs - no more taxis - because your car will work as a taxi when its not driving you - no more car park attendants - no more traffic wardens - no more traffic police - no more road accidents - no more car crime - the list goes on. These jobs won't be replaced by jobs in tech.

Its the same in many many industries - law, medicine, engineering and extends much beyond the McJobs that are currently already being replaced by e-ordering. Be careful about the career choices you make.

Thrugelmir

John_Smith_2019 wrote: »

It can be. If I decided to pay a cleaner / housekeeper.

Back to the days of upstairs/downstairs.

Thrugelmir

SmashedAvacado wrote: »

Just look at the automotive industry - based on where we are now with driver-less cars its not unreasonable to predict that within 20 years we will have no more driving jobs

Going to be a challenge to convert to all electric let alone driverless.

The automotive industry however will require less workers than in the past.