Estate agent - £25k reduction after a month

Davesnave

AdrianC wrote: »

They want a hug? Wrong place.

No one's suggesting a Mumsnet approach, but from what we know about persuasion and getting people to accept ideas they find difficult, going at it without empathy and an understanding of where they're starting from tends not to be very effective.


In manufacturing and merchandising who says "Never mind what the customers want or think; they just need telling what's good for them, full on."

AdrianC

Davesnave wrote: »

No one's suggesting a Mumsnet approach

Have you ever looked at Mumsnet?
Blimey. They're terrifying. It's a nest of vipers. Even on our worst day, we're !!!!!cats in comparison.

In manufacturing and merchandising who says "Never mind what the customers want or think; they just need telling what's good for them, full on."

The difference is that it's not us doing the selling. We're telling them why their selling is going wrong.

GDB2222

I asked a question about Ikea delivery. That’s hardly an emotive topic, yet it received quite a bewildering range of responses.

Actually, I found the replies very helpful, and we decided to hire a van instead. But, Having all the different views arriving in an unstructured order was very hard to process.

I was probably quite fortunate in that nobody berated me for asking about ikea, rather than some other store. Nobody told me about how they used a tea chest as a table and how the younger generation is spoiled.

People do tend to go off on their pet topics, and that’s not necessarily helpful to the people asking for help.

All in all, especially bearing in mind what I paid for the advice, I was well satisfied with the response. But I have learned from it, and I have a lot more sympathy for people who ask a question and simply give up when the discussion veers off in what they regard as an unhelpful direction.

getmore4less

There is one near us that went on agents/rightmove a couple of months back with no floor plan a couple of dodgy photos and the street view in the wrong place.

I think the price is about right for older places but there are a LOT of H2B around which gives people more spending power.

Just checked,
still for sale,
Floor plan on but not quite right(dimensions are OK)
Photos fixed
Street view still wrong.

justjohn

AdrianC wrote: »

No, they don't.

But links that get posted here for critiqueing are usually posted precisely because the property's getting little-to-no interest. Remember, the owner/vendor's far too close to view the listing as a dispassionate putative buyer will view it. If something about the listing is making people go "Nah, not viewing that.", it's in the vendor's interest to know what.

They want a hug? Wrong place.

link gets posted. Someone will comment on price too high. Then there will be a comment about the photo's. Then someone is going to comment about the decor.


You could just cut and paste as soon as a link is posted.

Davesnave

AdrianC wrote: »

Have you ever looked at Mumsnet?
Blimey. They're terrifying. It's a nest of vipers. Even on our worst day, we're !!!!!cats in comparison.


The difference is that it's not us doing the selling. We're telling them why their selling is going wrong.

Must admit haven't looked at Mumsnet in a long time. It was all 'huns' and hugs when I did.


Yes, we are telling people where their selling isn't working, but the old Mark Twain adage that it's easier to fool people than convince them they've been fooled, applies. If a 'professional' has valued their house and advertised it for them, many people find it hard to accept they've been duped and given a false notion of value and service.


Moving them to a realisation of that takes time, tact and statistics, which getmore4less is very good at, without raising emotional issues.

getmore4less

justjohn wrote: »

link gets posted. Someone will comment on price too high. Then there will be a comment about the photo's. Then someone is going to comment about the decor.


You could just cut and paste as soon as a link is posted.

There will also be links to houses that have SSTC that can be used as real comparisons of what people did view and make offers on to see if the price is in the right ball park.

Along with a some that are still for sale that may look like better value on the details.

You do get the my house is better(ie:worth more) because.....

Some of which may be true.


I remember the grey new build that was(to summarise) the best house in the best street in the best village....

What the OP failed to mention was the planning for a skateboard park being built at the bottom of the garden in a park that had had numerous complains for noise.

justjohn

Davesnave wrote: »

If a 'professional' has valued their house and advertised it for them, many people find it hard to accept they've been duped and given a false notion of value and service.


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There is a variance in the valuation.


And for many that get there house valued, there is no acknowledgment that the valuation is a guesstimate. The EA should tell them its a ball park figure (many do)


There are also buyers out there, that want 20% of before they have even viewed.

AdrianC

justjohn wrote: »

link gets posted. Someone will comment on price too high.

Crashy does that regardless. But it is one of the main reasons why houses sit on the market. Showing comparables simply demonstrates it.

Then there will be a comment about the photo's.

You do have to wonder at the photography skills of some agents. They could take better pics if they upgraded to a fresher potato. But the vendor must have signed off on them...

Then someone is going to comment about the decor.

Again, it's far easier to sell a neutral canvas than what may well be somebody's taste... but which totally alienates the majority.

You could just cut and paste as soon as a link is posted.

Perhaps it's because so many listings are bad in similar ways?

Crashy_Time

Kalashnikov wrote: »

We could use this as a case study.

Epping Close, Mawneys, Romford, Havering, RM7: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/s6p/65711658

Was 350 now 325

Look a bit drab.

bet you could find bigger than 25k price cuts if you looked further.