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Tarian

E.ON_Company_Representative:_Malc wrote: »

Sorry Tarian, only just spotted your question.

To see our unit prices online, you need to click 'Get a Quote' on the first page of the website. Then, follow the instructions through to the page all available tariffs are shown.

If you then click 'review plan' on the tariff you're looking at, the unit prices are shown on the next page - about half way down.

Hope this helps.

Malc

Dear Malc,
Your answer has confirmed my point - that e.on does not make it easy to see unit prices and make easy comparisons.

For other readers, the "follow instructions" means answering 5 questions and ticking a T&C box - just to see the unit price for one tariff. (....and the question about "are you on mains gas" is irrelevant having previously selected "Electricity".)

In order to COMPARE tariffs one has to go back and click through the same 5 questions - changing one factor at a time (e.g. on-line or post, cash or DD) - and examining the final page.
Resulting differences have to be spotted (e.g. £5.25 annual discount for on-line)

While the estimated cost in £ says "inc VAT", that is not stated by the unit price. (I've not yet had a bill with units "inc VAT" - but as that would make e.on's "appear" more expensive, that is their risk)

And a curiosity...
The e.on Energy Discount v1 tariff has a penalty charge - even though the unit prices are variable !
Hardly fair if e.on are about to raise prices.

Come on e.on - place your unit prices up front. What have you got to hide?

backfoot

Tarian wrote: »

The e.on Energy Discount v1 tariff has a penalty charge - even though the unit prices are variable !
Hardly fair if e.on are about to raise prices.

If prices are raised a supplier cannot charge a Termination Fee.

Ofgem issued guidance following customer lobbying.:D

Wywth

Tarian wrote: »

Dear Malc,
Your answer has confirmed my point - that e.on does not make it easy to see unit prices and make easy comparisons.

For other readers, the "follow instructions" means answering 5 questions and ticking a T&C box - just to see the unit price for one tariff. (....and the question about "are you on mains gas" is irrelevant having previously selected "Electricity".)

In order to COMPARE tariffs one has to go back and click through the same 5 questions - changing one factor at a time (e.g. on-line or post, cash or DD) - and examining the final page.
Resulting differences have to be spotted (e.g. £5.25 annual discount for on-line)

While the estimated cost in £ says "inc VAT", that is not stated by the unit price. (I've not yet had a bill with units "inc VAT" - but as that would make e.on's "appear" more expensive, that is their risk)

And a curiosity...
The e.on Energy Discount v1 tariff has a penalty charge - even though the unit prices are variable !
Hardly fair if e.on are about to raise prices.

Come on e.on - place your unit prices up front. What have you got to hide?

Why on earth are you so interested in unit costs? :huh:

I'm interested in annual costs, which the comparison sites will tell you

(You should be able to find all the cost details of any specific tariff you may then be interested in also from that comparison site)

Former_E.ON_Company_Representative:_Malc

Tarian wrote: »

Dear Malc,
Your answer has confirmed my point - that e.on does not make it easy to see unit prices and make easy comparisons.

For other readers, the "follow instructions" means answering 5 questions and ticking a T&C box - just to see the unit price for one tariff. (....and the question about "are you on mains gas" is irrelevant having previously selected "Electricity".)

In order to COMPARE tariffs one has to go back and click through the same 5 questions - changing one factor at a time (e.g. on-line or post, cash or DD) - and examining the final page.
Resulting differences have to be spotted (e.g. £5.25 annual discount for on-line)

While the estimated cost in £ says "inc VAT", that is not stated by the unit price. (I've not yet had a bill with units "inc VAT" - but as that would make e.on's "appear" more expensive, that is their risk)

And a curiosity...
The e.on Energy Discount v1 tariff has a penalty charge - even though the unit prices are variable !
Hardly fair if e.on are about to raise prices.

Come on e.on - place your unit prices up front. What have you got to hide?

Hi Tarian

Sorry you don't like our new website. I'll happily feed your comments back.

Not everyone has the same requirements so we have to ask some questions before quoting.

The mains gas question is relevant. This is because, in some areas, we give extra discount to customers who don't have access to a mains gas supply.

Once the start quote button is hit, the next page lists all the options currently available. Next to each tariff is an estimated annual cost based on Ofgems average usage (you can add your own usage on the next page).

By hovering over the information button next to each tariff, you can see some of the main aspects including rewards, discount rates and terms and conditions.

Prices quoted on the review plan page are inclusive of VAT.

I agree, whilst stated against the annual spend quote, this isn't made clear against the unit prices. I'll certainly follow this up.

Energy Discount does have a cancellation charge but, as backfoot says, if a customer leaves due to a price increase, they won't be charged this. Provided, that is, they let us know within the required time frame.

Similarly, if customers decide to switch to another of our tariffs, cancellation charges won't apply.

I'd do as Wywth recommends and pop your details on to the comparison sites. This will give details of all tariffs, both with us and the other suppliers.

Sorry again our website quote tool isn't to your liking but hope you find the above of interest.

Malc

boss++

I spend monthly on Gas 50 kwh
on electric 160 kwh.
can anyone tell me if this is right.
thanks

Tarian

Wywth says
"Why on earth are you so interested in unit costs? :huh:

You clearly didn't read my post.
Unit prices are the best pricing comparison - unadulterated by assumptions about usage.


Wywth says:
"I'm interested in annual costs, which the comparison sites will tell you "

So am I - but based on a real world usage - not someone else's guess or model.
Comparison sites rarely produce the same result - so why should anyone rely on them?
My spreadsheet (or pen and paper) will produce a result based on actual usage.

Let me ask you: Why are you so obsessed with "annual costs"?
Do you buy clothes based on "annual costs"? Or food?
Do you choose a restaurant based on someone else's notional/theoretical meal?

Maybe you do and I defend your right to price compare that way.

Perhaps you would be kind enough to tolerate those who wish to compare prices the old fashioned way (i.e. without "Why on earth-ing)

Wywth

Tarian wrote: »

Wywth says
"Why on earth are you so interested in unit costs? :huh:

You clearly didn't read my post.
Unit prices are the best pricing comparison - unadulterated by assumptions about usage.


Wywth says:
"I'm interested in annual costs, which the comparison sites will tell you "

So am I - but based on a real world usage - not someone else's guess or model.
Comparison sites rarely produce the same result - so why should anyone rely on them?
My spreadsheet (or pen and paper) will produce a result based on actual usage.

Let me ask you: Why are you so obsessed with "annual costs"?
Do you buy clothes based on "annual costs"? Or food?
Do you choose a restaurant based on someone else's notional/theoretical meal?

Maybe you do and I defend your right to price compare that way.

Perhaps you would be kind enough to tolerate those who wish to compare prices the old fashioned way (i.e. without "Why on earth-ing)

Oh dear, I'm not sure if you are on a wind up or simply completely mistaken over gas & electricity tariffs.

Use a comparison site inputting your own anticipated annual consumption figures in kWh - it will then calculate your total annual cost based on those figures and will include all the elements that make up the tariff, not just the unit charges that you seem to think is the be all and end all.

If it was as simple as comparing unit costs, then there would be little point in the comparison sites calculating the annual cost; everyone would be on the tariff with the lowest unit cost.

If it was simply a case of comparing unit costs, Ofgem & the government would not be concerned with trying to make the tariffs simpler.

Edit: and as for the comment:
"You clearly didn't read my post."
Well that's wrong too. I did read all your posts in this thread and I responded to one here:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=57083609&postcount=2306
Did you read that???

speedy2003

E.ON just sent me a letter titled ( come back to our best deals) it goes on about tariffs but no mention of the unit price of there energy.I have to go online to compare there tariffs:( .
For me id rather have unit prices plus any discount information for dual ,paperless then work it out using my kwh energy consumption rather than any average guess.The amount of times ive had companys ring me with best energy deals but cant tell me the unit cost of there energy on that tariff they say will save me .

snowcat53

"Do you choose a restaurant based on someone else's notional/theoretical meal?"

Tarian - I also think you are mistaken in believing unit costs are the crucial piece of info.

The analogy with restaurants would be ok only if they had variable cover charges, costs for leaving the table early/late, different discounts for regular diners, tiered charges depending how much you eat, as well as the cost of each dish.

If you want unit costs (and it is useful to see them at some point)) then they are easily clickable on the comparison sites (eg energyhelpline) when you get your quotes. But using them to choose a tariff at the start will lead you astray.

dorsetd

I recently went through the MSE link to get the £15 cashback with Energy Helpline and switched to iSupply. Couldn't see any confirmation of cashback so contacted iSupply direct who said they didn't have any links with anyone to provide cashback. Anyone else have the same problem?