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Help, got until 24th November to submit Defence for VCS

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  • Received letter in post today saying "Practice Direction 27.3 of the Civil Procedure Rules allows for a party to be represented by a lay representative at a small claims hearing - but only where the party is present at the hearing"
  • Redx
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    Yep , so that means the defendant must be present , a lay rep is optional but allowed , as are witnesses

    On the other hand , the lay rep is not allowed if the defendant (victim) is not present , but surely you knew that ?
  • Redx said:
    On the other hand , the lay rep is not allowed if the defendant (victim) is not present , but surely you knew that ?
    TBH I thought it was a given, but they made such a song & dance over it & taken so long....that I was concerned I wouldn't be able to speak on partner's behalf.  He would have been useless at it lol.  I've done all the work!!
    Le_Kirk said:
    Quite right.  Assuming that the defendant and lay rep will BOTH be present then - even if it is at the end of a telephone/video link!  Who sent the letter?
    HM Courts & Tribunals Service
  • Le_Kirk
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    Redx said:
    On the other hand , the lay rep is not allowed if the defendant (victim) is not present , but surely you knew that ?
    TBH I thought it was a given, but they made such a song & dance over it & taken so long....that I was concerned I wouldn't be able to speak on partner's behalf.  He would have been useless at it lol.  I've done all the work!!
    Le_Kirk said:
    Quite right.  Assuming that the defendant and lay rep will BOTH be present then - even if it is at the end of a telephone/video link!  Who sent the letter?
    HM Courts & Tribunals Service
    You can use that letter then if the judge tries to prevent you.
  • Hokay.  Just printed out 43 sheets for the phone hearing this Thursday. Forgotten how much work we'd all put into this last year!  Now it's just rehearsals...
  • As my partner's lay rep, I use 'the driver' to the Judge. We've just had a practice run (I'm playing the Judge!)....and partner keeps trying to say 'I did this, I did that', rather than 'the driver did this, the driver did that'.  What if the judge asks if he was the driver?
  • KeithP
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    edited 31 January 2021 at 6:49PM
    What if the judge asks if he was the driver?
    Both you and the Defendant must not lie to the court. 
    Perjury is a criminal offence.
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    Why are they hiding behind the POFA, are there no other solid points that are stronger, such as unlit signs?
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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