NHS emergency badge...UKPC, private estate

Johno100

twhitehousescat wrote: »

9.3 was written long before the new data protection laws were introduced , and the (9.3) rule cannot proceed as there are now problems giving proof of emergency

If that is correct (we of course on here we often see data protection being used by PPC and others as a smokescreen) and a problem then the BPA needs to amend 9.3 appropriately. But I can't see how a PPC can be in breach of 9.3 as it stands by seeking the information after the event.

Undervalued

Johno100 wrote: »

Agreed, but some posters are seemingly 'blinded' by the occupation/uniform to look at these things objectively. You may remember the ambulance crew who parked their vehicle virtually in the foyer of a supermarket to go and get their lunch and the furore in the media and on here that surrounded that case.

Quite.

I live very close to a facility for children with severe special needs. It has woefully inadequate parking provision and large numbers of visiting healthcare professionals. Needless to say we suffered badly from inconsiderate and / or illegal parking by many of these people.

When challenged a significant number (but certainly not all) would defend their actions with an extraordinary sense of self-entitlement. They clearly felt their "status and importance" gave them rights over and above those enjoyed by the rest of the population.

Undervalued

twhitehousescat wrote: »

9.3 was written long before the new data protection laws were introduced , and the (9.3) rule cannot proceed as there are now problems giving proof of emergency

There would have been problems before under the old DPA, it is not new as a result of the GDPR. As I said earlier I cannot see how that would prevent a more senior HCP certifying that the person was actually dealing with an emergency at the time.

waamo

Undervalued wrote: »

There would have been problems before under the old DPA, it is not new as a result of the GDPR. As I said earlier I cannot see how that would prevent a more senior HCP certifying that the person was actually dealing with an emergency at the time.

The only problem is that if you had letters from the Pope and the chief nurse herself the ppc would say that they are biased and not independent witnesses. The ticket, at this time, therefore cannot be cancelled.

twhitehousescat

Undervalued wrote: »

There would have been problems before under the old DPA, it is not new as a result of the GDPR. As I said earlier I cannot see how that would prevent a more senior HCP certifying that the person was actually dealing with an emergency at the time.

they have , they issued a permit to the OP to be stuck on the screen when dealing with an emergency

when a fire engine runs a red light , do they have to give name of the cat they rescued ? or is common sense used

Undervalued

twhitehousescat wrote: »

they have , they issued a permit to the OP to be stuck on the screen when dealing with an emergency

No they haven't. They issues a permit to be use only when dealing with an emergency (however that is defined).

What is being requested is confirmation that this was actually an emergency and not a routine or non urgent visit.

9.3 clearly says that the badge can only be used when "on an emergency call at the address". Unless there is some method of policing that rule it is completely pointless.

KeithP

It really is quite clear.

By displaying an authorised Health Emergency Badge, the motorist is indicating that they are on an emergency call.

What more does the PPC need to know?

Johno100

twhitehousescat wrote: »

they have , they issued a permit to the OP to be stuck on the screen when dealing with an emergency.

I've seen no indication in what the OP has posted that that is how the badge is used I.e. emergencies only and is not on display at other times.

twhitehousescat wrote: »

when a fire engine runs a red light , do they have to give name of the cat they rescued ? or is common sense used

But if the fire engine triggers a red light camera and a ticket is issued to the fire service they will conduct checks to confirm the vehicle was on a genuine emergency when it triggered the camera and advise the issuing authority accordingly. If it was on a run to the local chippie for their evening meal then the driver would quite rightly be on the hook for it.

KeithP

Johno100 wrote: »

But if the fire engine triggers a red light camera and a ticket is issued to the fire service they will conduct checks to confirm the vehicle was on a genuine emergency when it triggered the camera and advise the issuing authority accordingly. If it was on a run to the local chippie for their evening meal then the driver would quite rightly be on the hook for it.

Hahaha.

You've made that up. :rotfl::rotfl:

twhitehousescat

Johno100 wrote: »

I've seen no indication in what the OP has posted that that is how the badge is used I.e. emergencies only and is not on display at other times.



But if the fire engine triggers a red light camera and a ticket is issued to the fire service they will conduct checks to confirm the vehicle was on a genuine emergency when it triggered the camera and advise the issuing authority accordingly. If it was on a run to the local chippie for their evening meal then the driver would quite rightly be on the hook for it.

suspected fire at chip shop , no action taken at scene :rotfl: