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Banking with Windows XP

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  • pafpcg
    pafpcg Posts: 931 Forumite
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    eskbanker wrote: »
    Sure, I'm not denying that some are resistant to change and regard XP as some sort of utopian ideal, but was simply challenging the assertion that most 'love and miss' it! Personally I don't think I've ever loved any operating system....
    Why change because some profit-maximisation outfit wants to keep its customers on an "upgrade" treadmill? Most OS "upgrades" are no such thing and "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!". Royal Navy submarines are still running a hardened version of Windows2000 (known as colloquially as 'Windows for Warships').

    It was years before I switched from Windows2000 to XP - faster & leaner than XP, but it wasn't ever loved - that category is populated by George3, PC-DOS5 and Netware5 (we love them as much for their idiosyncracies as their refusal to quit).

    PS: for the security conscious, we've long switched to a hardened Linux OS running in a virtual environment. To carry-out anything sensitive, just load a fresh instance and delete when finished. Then you can go back to playing Solitaire in Windows or whatever floats your boat....
  • unforeseen
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    Why change because some profit-maximisation outfit wants to keep its customers on an "upgrade" treadmill? Most OS "upgrades" are no such thing and "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!". Royal Navy submarines are still running a hardened version of Windows2000 (known as colloquially as 'Windows for Warships').
    I bet those systems don't connect to the Internet and what they control hasn't changed much in years. W2000 is and was a solid platform if you want to use it in an embedded or isolated system.
  • Robisere
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    OP's original questions were: -
    " Anyone else still using XP?
    Anyone know what makes XP users more vulnerable to online banking scams?
    "
    Answers -
    * No one who wishes to keep their systems secure.
    ** Yes - and that has been answered several times in several individual, different replies.

    I am still using Windows 7, but have been preparing my system for 10 and intend to switch next week. I have already switched my son's machine and have used that experience to learn what I can.

    I first used Windows 3.1 at a time when I became disabled and had to change employment. I worked my way through 95, 98 and XP to 7, which I still love but know that I have to leave. Every one of these operating systems reached a point beyond which they were insecure and unsafe to continue using.

    This is not due " some profit-maximisation outfit wanting to keep its customers on an "upgrade" treadmill? "
    It's simply a matter of securing the user's data, finances and possibly identity. there is no point in making up 'facts' to support the real reason: that some just cannot face the change, it's "too difficult".
    I think this job really needs
    a much bigger hammer.
  • pafpcg
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    unforeseen wrote: »
    I bet those systems don't connect to the Internet
    Yes, I don't think decent internet access will be available for a submarine lurking in an ocean trench in the Arctic!
  • sportsarb
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    Would it not also be a safe assumption to say that Microsoft will cater to major business customers and keep support for their systems running quite some time past the date they stop doing so for 'Home' versions of the software?
  • Prism
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    sportsarb wrote: »
    Would it not also be a safe assumption to say that Microsoft will cater to major business customers and keep support for their systems running quite some time past the date they stop doing so for 'Home' versions of the software?

    They do but it costs a fortune. The UK government paid £5.5m to extend support for xp for 1 year.
  • grnglide
    grnglide Posts: 171 Forumite
    Microsoft pushed very hard to pursuade corporate and government users to move off XP.


    I was always of the impression that the supply of updates became chargeable and only the really serious fixes were made available to home users.
  • Ceme3000
    Ceme3000 Posts: 217 Forumite
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    A little off topic, but if you want an insight into how the tech support scam works then look for Jim Browning on You Tube. He is an ethical hacker who managed to get some hidden screen sharing software onto a scammers PC in India so that he could watch and listen to what they were doing while they tried to scam him and other people. His videos are quite interesting.
  • Gadfium
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    pafpcg wrote: »
    Royal Navy submarines are still running a hardened version of Windows2000 (known as colloquially as 'Windows for Warships').


    So what?
    The comparison between an ordinary Joe who's too lazy or unwilling to learn a new OS and a hardened OS running on custom hardware that's sitting on a military grade network is, at best, facetious.
  • LHW99
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    Just hope that it will be possible to use Linux once WIN8 goes - or that "WIN11" is reasonably good.
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