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Umkomaas

Impossible to advise on circumstances no one here has ever previously experienced. Tell you what, go through it, then come back and advise others likely to go through the same process in the near future, based on an experience that even the most expert regular has ever gone through. 

Up for it?

GetSmarterVictoria

Redx said:

as long as all the paperwork is in and you are happy to do it , then its your choice, or wait months for a face to face confrontation

there was one reported on here the other day , did you read it ?

they could not get hold of the claimant so the judge found for the defendant

The letter doesn't reference the requirement for any paperwork so I'm just going to go on the call with myself and my honesty I guess and hope for the best!  I'd rather do the call in that case than wait for months for a face to face hearing. That and I feel it's such a waste of courts time to be dealing with something so minor!

No I hadn't seen that, I'll go and check it out now! Thank you!

GetSmarterVictoria

Umkomaas said:

Impossible to advise on circumstances no one here has ever previously experienced. Tell you what, go through it, then come back and advise others likely to go through the same process in the near future, based on an experience that even the most expert regular has ever gone through. 

Up for it?

Sure! Like I said, the forum has helped me enormously to get this far...so if there's anything that I can do to help others then I'd be glad of the chance.  I'll do the telephone preliminary hearing which is in just over a week and will feedback on the experience.

Umkomaas

GetSmarterVictoria said:

Umkomaas said:

Impossible to advise on circumstances no one here has ever previously experienced. Tell you what, go through it, then come back and advise others likely to go through the same process in the near future, based on an experience that even the most expert regular has ever gone through. 

Up for it?

Sure! Like I said, the forum has helped me enormously to get this far...so if there's anything that I can do to help others then I'd be glad of the chance.  I'll do the telephone preliminary hearing which is in just over a week and will feedback on the experience.

Great response, thank you. Most run a mile when asked to give something back to help those coming to the forum suffering the same anxieties in the near future. 

Good stuff, well impressed. 

Redx

GetSmarterVictoria said:

Redx said:

as long as all the paperwork is in and you are happy to do it , then its your choice, or wait months for a face to face confrontation

there was one reported on here the other day , did you read it ?

they could not get hold of the claimant so the judge found for the defendant

The letter doesn't reference the requirement for any paperwork so I'm just going to go on the call with myself and my honesty I guess and hope for the best!  I'd rather do the call in that case than wait for months for a face to face hearing. That and I feel it's such a waste of courts time to be dealing with something so minor!

No I hadn't seen that, I'll go and check it out now! Thank you!

previous letters from the court told you the deadlines for the WS + EXHIBITS + COSTS ASSESSMENT , usually say 2 weeks before the hearing , so my point was that you ensure that these have been submitted to the court and claimant on time

GetSmarterVictoria

Redx said:

GetSmarterVictoria said:

Redx said:

as long as all the paperwork is in and you are happy to do it , then its your choice, or wait months for a face to face confrontation

there was one reported on here the other day , did you read it ?

they could not get hold of the claimant so the judge found for the defendant

The letter doesn't reference the requirement for any paperwork so I'm just going to go on the call with myself and my honesty I guess and hope for the best!  I'd rather do the call in that case than wait for months for a face to face hearing. That and I feel it's such a waste of courts time to be dealing with something so minor!

No I hadn't seen that, I'll go and check it out now! Thank you!

previous letters from the court told you the deadlines for the WS + EXHIBITS + COSTS ASSESSMENT , usually say 2 weeks before the hearing , so my point was that you ensure that these have been submitted to the court and claimant on time

Oh no! I thought I'd done everything as requested by now and thought that the request for those bits comes after the preliminary?  !!!!!!, I'm off to check my paperwork again!

EDIT:  Before I run off to check through boxes and paperwork (I've just moved house)...I have a copy of the prelim paperwork on my phone which states the purpose of the hearing is to establish:

- The outstanding issues in the case
-Possibility of settlement
- What docs and/or statements will be required for the trial of the case
- How long the trial is likely to last

Redx

the order from your local court told you and the claimant the deadlines , assuming you received it ?

how is a judge supposed to come to any conclusions and a judgment if you havent filed anything except a defence ?

think about it, read all the advice on here like the what happens when posts linked in the newbies thread

you dont just file a defence and a DQ and that it !! , there is more to do , so check your court order, nobody here can tell you what your local court has stipulated, that is why they send you a letter , so if you had a court date issued , you also had a deadline in it

if you havent had a court date or a deadline set, then maybe this is more like mediation but with a judge presiding ?

I hope you realise this forum is a consumer advice forum and not a legal aid forum ?

D_P_Dance

I would advise against a telephone hearing.  Your are far more likely to take their ill-prepared gun for hire lawyer to bits in a courtdoom.  Cancel because  you have lost your voice, (possible due to a virus), and demand a face to face hearing, which could tale place next year in current circumstances in a court room.  

nosferatu1001

Regulars - can you please read that this isa  PERLIMINARY hearing! 
This is what would in CrimPR be called a case management hearing, from the description above

OP - take it.
You have a hearing date letter, yes? In that letter it told you, very clearly, your deadline to submit docs. If this deadline is AFTER this hearing, then dont send anything UNTIL you have attended this preliminary hearing. This preliminary hearing will UPDATE that court order - or not! - with any new or amended requirements. Obviously *if you are unsure what you need to provide, and when, this is your chance to ASK for directions!*. Take. Notes. Do not rely on getting any paperwork from the court. Do not rely on your memory. Take. Notes.
If the hearing letter gave you an earleir date, you obviously have two choices:
1) Supply WS and other docs as per the hearing letter due date. 
2) Get the court to tell you, BEFORE the  preliminary hearing, that you are ALLOWED to ignore the order or that the preliminary hearing letter supercedes this order
You want this *in writing*, because the courts *run* on paperwork. 

GetSmarterVictoria

I am devastated and hope that this is a lesson to others - not that I know how it is going to turn out yet.
I missed the telephone hearing after completely messing up the dates and through personal issues.  I lost my father in law 2 weeks ago unexpectedly and the funeral was the day before the hearing.  I was travelling the 5 hours back from the funeral on the day of the hearing and with all the emotion and exhaustion from trying to organise and hold a funeral during this pandemic, I messed up.

I have emailed the courts to see if there's any way that they would consider a reschedule due to the circumstances but having never been through anything like this before, I doubt they will be compassionate.

I wish I'd have taken the parking firms £85.00 deal now as this is likely to be a costly mistake!