Countdown from £28k...

alt80

Don’t think there’s many women out there like @Bargainhunter30 not saying there aren’t some - do know some are like this and yeah not all the same but 99/100 love this stuff.  

Sholly

lantanna said:

I’d be keen to know why the girl has to be younger Alto ?

I'm honestly surprised this is the first time this guy's derogatory comments about women have been called out - there are many examples throughout this diary. I cringe when I read them.

rugbymadfamily

Good luck on the date today!

lantanna

Sholly said:

lantanna said:

I’d be keen to know why the girl has to be younger Alto ?

I'm honestly surprised this is the first time this guy's derogatory comments about women have been called out - there are many examples throughout this diary. I cringe when I read them.

I agree, I could say so much more but why would I lower myself. I certainly wouldn’t be taking any advice from that direction.

Legs21

Good luck today!

enthusiasticsaver

alt80 said:

Don’t think there’s many women out there like @Bargainhunter30 not saying there aren’t some - do know some are like this and yeah not all the same but 99/100 love this stuff.  

I think there are more than you think.  Might not be in the circles you mix in though.  Most women I know of all different ages don't expect constant expensive gifts and would rather a man was honest, kind and thoughtful. 

ryanm8655

Date has been rearranged for tomorrow eve as she has a job interview tomorrow, fair enough and also suits me as I’ve got a lot of work to do by tomorrow :-)

Agree re: gifts. Never taken a gift on a date ha. Never had a date that expected it either ha. I’ve paid on occasion, though most girls I’ve dated like to split the bill. Most of the time there has been a 2nd/3rd date too. Personally wouldn’t want to be with someone who expects gifts all the time ha. Prefer someone with a bit more depth.

alt80

@ryanm8655 hope you have a good time mate.

@Sholly / @lantannaWe’ve been here before re the perception I have ‘derogatory views about women’. Came from me saying find a younger, attractive woman earlier on to Ryan. Fwiw, I don’t have derogatory views about women but I am realistic. Most women want to find someone who will look after them, provide if you will, it’s why they want the gifts - gives them a bit of security that if they have a kid, they’ll be ok. Nothing wrong with that, it’s a biological thing. Yeah, I agree not ALL women are looking for that but the majority are. 

When I’ve got a single female member of staff who’s dating I’ll give them some advice and 100% I’ll tell them don’t date some artist living in a HMO no matter how fit he is. Whereas if that were a man, I’d tell him to fill his boots. Fair? Probably not but I don’t want one of my staff 3 years down the line, pregnant wanting to spend a few years with her baby pressured to come back to work when she doesn’t want to because she fell in love with a bloke who couldn’t provide her with a good standard of living. No good for her and no good for business. In turn no good for me. Ultimately her life to do as she wishes but 100 I look out for my staff. She wants to come back, her job is safe and she will be supported in her role - been there a few times and never had an issue with women who’ve become mums and returned to work but I’ve also had one who didn’t want to come back. She was married to a man who could do that luckily for her. Nothing but pleased for her but initially she thought she’d be back in 6 months, changed her mind - it’s a primal thing for a mum to want to be at home with her baby not thinking about earning. It’s why women will generally look for the gifts etc early on. 

Under no uncertain terms I know my wife wouldn’t be with me had I been a waiter when we met - is that fair? Again probably not but just facts of life. The human race is patriarchal both biologically and societally that is what it is so most women are going to want what most women want and most men are too. Don’t like it suppose you’ll have to find someone who shares your views or compromise. Fwiw, I’m cooking a Valentine’s Day meal for my wife today and been baking bread with my son this morning, gave her a bit of time to herself if I were such a chauvinist i wouldn’t be doing that lol. I’ve actually lived with a feminist before I met my wife - had a good time together, only time a woman has paid me rent to live in my house, her choice and win win tbt. Admitted on here I find women who can stand on their own two feet a massive turn on; would love my wife to work so ‘derogatory toward women’ I think not. Just realistic about it that’s all.

@enthusiasticsaver ha we must mix in different circles lol. Not my experience generally tbt but long time since I’ve dated.

Sholly

@alt80 you're missing the point entirely. You've spent a lot of time telling us women what you think we want and even how we think, as if it's fact - have you heard of mansplaining?
Did your female staff member ask for advice or was it you giving uninvited advice? It's not your place to give your staff relationship advice - that's inappropriate. Have you considered that from her point of view?
Maybe the artist in the HMO is a genius who just hasn't had his break yet? And even if he isn't a genius, is he happy/fun/caring/thoughtful? Life isn't all about money and there is far more to relationships than that.
I'd worry about my relationship if my partner wouldn't have been with me if I'd been a waiter when we met.
You said you'd picked up a ready meal recently to give your wife a break - do you hear how that sounds?
Maybe just have a think about this, especially as it's a woman telling you that it's derogatory.

Onebrokelady

So true,I brought my daughters up to realise you need to be able to stand on your own two feet and not rely on a man, both my daughters have always worked since they were 16 and don't expect men to constantly treat them. Sadly they both know from living  with their dad that a lot of men just can't be trusted so prefer to have the means to be independent. My eldest is married and appreciates the nice things in life but she doesn't expect them  from her husband,she likes to receive things that are thoughtful. My youngest is still single and is not the kind of woman who wants expensive treats, one boyfriend bought her a camera once and she was mortified, when they split up she gave him the money for it because she felt bad