A Question for Tory Supporters

Sailtheworld

Tromking wrote: »

If that is the case why I wonder is it still law that the UK leaves the EU?

..because parliament have decided that's the law.

Don't get ideas above your station that referendums are a higher state of democracy.

lisyloo

Zuzel wrote: »

Yes it is, so why are you not insisting the same and agreeing that Brexit should be implemented?

The law says we’re leaving on 31/10 doesn’t it?

Why don’t you think it’s being implemented?

mayonnaise

SpiderLegs wrote: »

Therefore of course all Belgium’s banana exports were originally imported from somewhere else!

Good point. Well spotted.

SpiderLegs wrote: »

Give me a shout If you need any more help.

Will do.

SpiderLegs

Herzlos wrote: »

Corbyn has agreed to a GE once no deal has been taken off the table. He's also proposing putting Brexit back to the people, now we have a better idea of what's involved. That almost sounds democratic to me.

Yes like I say, a GE is the wrong kind of democracy for Jeremy.

I thought democracy was about giving people a choice. Yet it sounds a lot like the Corbyn version is about denying those who might want no deal any choice at all.

How very inclusive of the chap!

Thrugelmir

mayonnaise wrote: »

I'm pleased about your continual development, Thrugs.

Cheers.

To assist yours

Netherlands: $674.5 million (5%) - ROTTERDAM
Germany: $236.1 million (1.7%) - HAMBURG
Belgium: $956.3 million (7%) - ANTWERP

What do these places have in common?

PS. Austria would struggle to import Bananas.

phillw

SpiderLegs wrote: »

Give me a shout If you need any more help. If i’m not around I can get my six year old on the case instead.

I feel like we're going round in circles, we can go back to talking about sterling and WTO quotas.

It appears nobody has done enough to explain why there would be a reduction to access of fresh food, probably because the government realizes it would hurt their negotiation.

It's not limited to EU originated food.

Herzlos

SpiderLegs wrote: »

Yes like I say, a GE is the wrong kind of democracy for Jeremy.

I thought democracy was about giving people a choice. Yet it sounds a lot like the Corbyn version is about denying those who might want no deal any choice at all.

How very inclusive of the chap!

Alternatively the GE is to allow the public the choice whilst it's still a choice. Having a GE right now means that we'll likely leave before there's any option to see if it's what the public want.


If enough people want a no deal in a referendum, then Corbyn will be compelled to seek a no deal.

phillw

Herzlos wrote: »

Alternatively the GE is to allow the public the choice whilst it's still a choice. Having a GE right now means that we'll likely leave before there's any option to see if it's what the public want.

Right, I feel like nobody has done enough to point out how long it took after the last election before government was formed. If the same thing happened again (and it looks very much like it could) the conservatives could refuse to enter a coalition and then there would be nobody to negotiate or agree anything with the EU.

I don't think Boris was expecting parliament to vote for an election, it was a bluff so he could say he offered.

Sailtheworld

Thrugelmir wrote: »

PS. Austria would struggle to import Bananas.

Don't they have bananas in Austria?

LHW99

Sailtheworld wrote: »

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Don't get ideas above your station that referendums are a higher state of democracy.

Herzlos wrote: »

If enough people want a no deal in a referendum, then Corbyn will be compelled to seek a no deal.

So the 2016 referendum was advisory, and therefore shouldn't be taken seriously and the result acted upon, whereas one that JC sets up will be acted upon even if the answer is Leave with no deal?
pardon my scepticism.