A Question for Tory Supporters

Sailtheworld

Zuzel wrote: »

Yes it is, so why are you not insisting the same and agreeing that Brexit should be implemented?

People are allowed to change their minds and/or demographics change such that decisions of yesteryear become redundant. Lots of things that seemed like good ideas at the time look different in the cold light of day.

The referendum was a stupid idea because it gave people the idea that a referendum result trumps everything else. It's up to parliament (and always was) as to whether we stay in or leave the UK.

LHW99

It's up to parliament (and always was) as to whether we stay in or leave the UK.

Independance for England eh! Didn't know it was on the cards, but it would solve Scotland's issue I suppose!

Thrugelmir

LHW99 wrote: »

Independance for England eh! Didn't know it was on the cards, but it would solve Scotland's issue I suppose!

Let's scrap democracy.

Herzlos

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Let's scrap democracy.

Just because Brexiteers are terrified of democracy doesn't mean we should get rid of it.

Tromking

Sailtheworld wrote: »

The referendum was a stupid idea because it gave people the idea that a referendum result trumps everything else. It's up to parliament (and always was) as to whether we stay in or leave the UK.

If that is the case why I wonder is it still law that the UK leaves the EU?

SpiderLegs

Herzlos wrote: »

Just because Brexiteers are terrified of democracy doesn't mean we should get rid of it.

Just remind me who has been blocking the chance to have a general election?

Oh sorry, I forgot that a GE is the wrong kind of democracy.

mayonnaise

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Didn't realise that bananas were imported from the EU. Learn something new everyday on this forum.

I'm pleased about your continual development, Thrugs.


Below are the 15 countries that exported the highest dollar value worth of bananas during 2018.

Ecuador: US$3.2 billion (23.7% of total banana exports)
Philippines: $1.5 billion (11.1%)
Guatemala: $1.47 billion (10.8%)
Costa Rica: $1 billion (7.6%)
Belgium: $956.3 million (7%)
Colombia: $866.2 million (6.4%)
Netherlands: $674.5 million (5%)
United States: $444.4 million (3.3%)
Dominican Republic: $365.5 million (2.7%)
Honduras: $318.1 million (2.3%)
Panama: $313.8 million (2.3%)
Mexico: $259 million (1.9%)
Cameroon: $244.1 million (1.8%)
Germany: $236.1 million (1.7%)
Ivory Coast: $173.7 million (1.3%)

http://www.worldstopexports.com/bananas-exports-country/


You're that guy who stopped drinking Yorkshire Tea when you found it it wasn't actually grown in Yorkshire, aren't you? :rotfl:

SpiderLegs

mayonnaise wrote: »

I'm pleased about your continual development, Thrugs.


Below are the 15 countries that exported the highest dollar value worth of bananas during 2018.

Ecuador: US$3.2 billion (23.7% of total banana exports)
Philippines: $1.5 billion (11.1%)
Guatemala: $1.47 billion (10.8%)
Costa Rica: $1 billion (7.6%)
Belgium: $956.3 million (7%)
Colombia: $866.2 million (6.4%)
Netherlands: $674.5 million (5%)
United States: $444.4 million (3.3%)
Dominican Republic: $365.5 million (2.7%)
Honduras: $318.1 million (2.3%)
Panama: $313.8 million (2.3%)
Mexico: $259 million (1.9%)
Cameroon: $244.1 million (1.8%)
Germany: $236.1 million (1.7%)
Ivory Coast: $173.7 million (1.3%)

http://www.worldstopexports.com/bananas-exports-country/


You're that guy who stopped drinking Yorkshire Tea when you found it it wasn't actually grown in Yorkshire, aren't you? :rotfl:

I know we don’t like fake news so let’s just add Some context to this from the very same source.

Below are the 15 countries that imported the highest dollar value worth of bananas during 2018.
United States: US$2.8 billion (18.1% of total bananas imports)
Belgium: $1.3 billion (8.6%)
Russia: $1.2 billion (7.4%)
Netherlands: $968.8 million (6.2%)
Germany: $944.8 million (6.1%)
Japan: $913.4 million (5.9%)
China: $896.8 million (5.7%)
United Kingdom: $769.5 million (4.9%)
France: $622.9 million (4%)
Italy: $564.9 million (3.6%)
Canada: $423.5 million (2.7%)
South Korea: $360.2 million (2.3%)
Poland: $319.6 million (2%)
Spain: $246.6 million (1.6%)
Argentina: $217.5 million (1.4%)
Among the above countries, the fastest-growing markets for bananas since 2014 were: Netherlands (up 181.5%), France (up 22%), Russia (up 20.6%) and Japan (up 12.6%).

Four countries posted declines in their imported bananas purchases namely: Germany (down -16.2%), Belgium (down -11.3%), United Kingdom (down -7.3%) and Canada (down -0.8%).

The listed 15 countries purchased 80.6% of all bananas imports in 2018.

Therefore of course all Belgium’s banana exports were originally imported from somewhere else! What a surprise!

Equally interesting is the bit you accidentally missed off your original quote -

Among the above countries, the fastest-growing banana exporters since 2014 were: Panama (up 220.5%), Cameroon (up 216.7%), Netherlands (up 124.7%) and Guatemala (up 103.8%).

Three countries posted declines in their exported banana sales: Germany (down -39.8%), Belgium (down -27.5%) and United States (down -5.5%).

So it appears the necessity for non-eu countries to send their bananas to a base country in the eu for redistribution is declining at quite a serious rate. Instead these countries are exporting direct.
Which bodes well for the UK in its future banana sourcing negotiations.


Give me a shout If you need any more help. If i’m not around I can get my six year old on the case instead.

phillw

Zuzel wrote: »

Yes it is, so why are you not insisting the same and agreeing that Brexit should be implemented?

Does "Advisory referendum" ring a bell?

Herzlos

SpiderLegs wrote: »

Just remind me who has been blocking the chance to have a general election?

Oh sorry, I forgot that a GE is the wrong kind of democracy.

Corbyn has agreed to a GE once no deal has been taken off the table. He's also proposing putting Brexit back to the people, now we have a better idea of what's involved. That almost sounds democratic to me.