92 in a 70

NBLondon

Supersonos wrote: »

It's what annoys me about speed awareness courses - people who get caught are totally aware of the speed they are going.

Not necessarily. I ended up on a course a few years back for 37 or so in a 30. I knew my speed - but I missed the transition from 40 to a 30 limit.

But they don't care. And a course won't change that.

I think it was a good thing to have the refresher with tips from an experienced driving instructor, But by some of the conversation over coffee; not everyone was prepared to learn from the experience.

As hollie just said, OP - learn from it!

Supersonos

NBLondon wrote: »

Not necessarily. I ended up on a course a few years back for 37 or so in a 30. I knew my speed - but I missed the transition from 40 to a 30 limit.

True. And in your case, 37mph is an acceptable speed in many other situations, and I appreciate people can sometimes have a lapse of concentration. But would a speed awareness course change that? I don't think so.

But in the OP's case, nowhere in this country is it acceptable to do 92mph. And you don't need to look at your speedo to know you're going way, way too fast.

AdrianC

92 on a motorway is a lot less likely to be dangerous than 37 in a 30 could easily be. Equally, 37 in a 30 could be utterly safe.

It's simply impossible to generalise, because we know zero about the circumstances. All we know for certain is that one speed is 23% above the legal limit, and the other is 31% over. Actually, that's untrue - to be photographed on the M25, it's almost certain it was in a variable limit stretch, so the traffic was fairly light, else the limit would have been reduced.

The only way to generalise is to say that "speed above limit is automatically dangerous", which is as blatantly untrue as the obverse, that speed within the limit is somehow assumed to be safe.

And, yes, it'll probably be 3pt/£100 FPN for SP50.

AdrianC

marlot wrote: »

If we really wanted to reduce road deaths, we'd make everyone do some form of driver training every year or two.

^ THIS

I strongly suspect there's a very high correlation between those drivers who are barely competent, and those who stick rigidly to speed limits at all times.

Gloomendoom

Supersonos wrote: »

They know that excessive speed can cause a potential accident to be much more catastrophic and even fatal..

Any speed over zero can cause a potential accident to be much more catastrophic and even fatal. Think about that the next time you get in your car. Humanity might be better off if you stay at home. The 70 max speed limit on a motorway is just an arbitrary number. Why is 80 considered an excessive speed on a UK motorway but not on a French one?

Like the OP. To be caught doing 96 means his speedo would have been reading 100mph+. All he cares about is how much this might cost him.

The OP wasn't caught doing 96, it was 92, and his speedo may have been showing exactly that. The speedometer in my car doesn't over read by any noticeable margin.

Johno100

hollie.weimeraner wrote: »

That'll be me then. Test passed in 1974 and nothing but a parking ticket in 1976. (Been very lucky though :rotfl:)

So in other words you haven't been caught.

hollie.weimeraner

Johno100 wrote: »

So in other words you haven't been caught.

Correct:D As probably 99.9% of the population that haven't had any points on their licence.

The .1% would include my wife:D

Nick_C

Most people speed because the speed limits are arbitrary and so we don't respect them. 90 on a motorway with good visibility and plenty of space between you and the driver in front can be perfectly safe.

70 in the rain in heavy motorway traffic can be unsafe.

I think the biggest safety concerns on the motorways are being in the wrong lane and tailgating.

AdrianC

Nick_C wrote: »

I think the biggest safety concerns on the motorways are being in the wrong lane and tailgating.

...and simply obliviousness and lack of observation.

sevenhills

AdrianC wrote: »

^ THIS

I strongly suspect there's a very high correlation between those drivers who are barely competent, and those who stick rigidly to speed limits at all times.

Are you highly competent and so are able to drive over the limit occasionally?


I too would welcome more training, but someone that is barely competent when they have driven for 5,000 per year and still not learnt what they should be doing, will a couple of hours training help?