Which pc?

donnajunkie

Kronkis wrote: »

donnajunkie get the one for £350 with Monitor.

Anything else is overkill, as you don't need really super powerful specs because you are not a gamer.

The cheaper Argos one will seem really fast and do all you want and need.

Stick to what you are comfortable with.

You can have a play with the Privacy settings on Windows 10 if you want, or leave them be. (As i'm sure most people in the World do).

There will be one major Windows 10 Update to install when you buy it, then you are ready to go.

Install the things you want via your USB stick at your leasure.

People here have got me paranoid that i will suffer slowdown problems if not straight away in a few years from now. The question is is 4gb ram on windows 10 as bad as 1gb ram on windows vista.

donnajunkie

Just had a quick look and found the minimum ram for windows 10 is 2gb so surely 4gb is plenty enough?

Kronkis

4GB of Ram is enough.

I have that on Windows 10 and have 3 different browsers open, multiple webpages open and watch Movies too.

DoaM

4GB is OK, 8GB is better (and generally noticeable - it was for me and I have an i7 CPU.). The biggest, most-noticeable impact is that of an SSD.

EveryWhere

donnajunkie wrote: »

I watched the youtube vid you posted and if doing that i could easily lose one of those screws in an unretrievable place in the system.

Losing a screw wouldn't affect the function and anyway, that isn't a video for your current sysytem. If you had worked on your current system in the past, you would not be so nervous about working on the new HP.

Chino

Kronkis wrote: »

4GB of Ram is enough.

I have that on Windows 10

Whereas I too have Windows 10 and wouldn't dream of having a machine with less than 8 GB. I only have a few Microsoft Edge Dev windows open (with videos running in a couple of them) and Task Manager shows my memory usage at around 6.6 GB.

EveryWhere

donnajunkie wrote: »

People here have got me paranoid that i will suffer slowdown problems if not straight away in a few years from now. The question is is 4gb ram on windows 10 as bad as 1gb ram on windows vista.

Not true. You have proved that you are paranoid anyway. So you interpret whatever is written in the worst possible way.
Very early on I told you that the HP would be better than to what you were used and that you should just go for whatever you wanted, as I knew the path this thread would take.

You stated that you wanted the device to last twelve years, like your current device. But your current device has been totally inadequate for the past twelve years, because of your unsubstantiated fear of the simplest of maintenance.

The HP Tower will be a huge improvement in comparison to what you are used. But what will you do if the HDD fails in a year or two? You will be totally ill equipped to do anything but to take it to a shop to be fixed.
Your projections are based on everything going right for the next twelve years.

It pays to have at least a little experience, so that you can add or remove RAM, fit an SSD or in the case of the new HP, attach the very much faster NVMe SSD in order to get the best out of the device.

My point is that you are doing your self down because of your exaggerated fears. You really didn't get to enjoy your old HP. Instead it was just likely laborious in use...for twelve years.

Now, you are having to compromise on your system; smaller screen than ideal and making do with an old style mechanical HDD because you are just too afraid.

So we show you both sides of the coin. The problem is not with the equipment. The problem is with you.

So if you buy the new HP, you can use it as it is.
But then perhaps keep the old system as a back up and do some practice on it, with our help, over time.
RAM perhaps £5 or less. Next step perhaps a cheap SSD. Maybe new graphics card for £10 or less if you are feeling adventurous down the line. The point being, to build your confidence. Knowing that you aren't afraid to make a mistake as you aren't dependent on the old device any more.
Then maybe you'll get to the point where you are not afraid to tackle popping in the much quicker storage drive into the new HP.
The new HP is actually a bit more fiddly than your old HP.
Your old HP has a single screw to remove, unlike the new HP.
Click here to see; https://support.hp.com/in-en/document/c01292109

Next;
To connect the new SSD, you unplug the connectors from here;


and plug them into the back of the new SSD. That's it. No need to unscrew nor to screw anything in. Just leave it unfixed inside the PC.

That is really it.

You are never to old to learn.
It's really not healthy to feel so afraid. You'll likely never find better support than you have here....unless someone actually does the physical work for you.

chib

Some terrible and confusing advice in here for the OP. Not everyone wants to open and service a system themselves. You could save money by doing the timing belt on your car yourself - but most wouldn't.

If I'm doing a system build for someone I'd be fitting it with both an SSD for Windows 10, HDD of higher capacity for storage and a minimum of 8GB of RAM. A system with a 1TB HDD and 4GB RAM will perform fine, maybe not as snappy but you'll find it much faster compared to your current system and for light tasks it'll work fine in the years to come.

Personally I buy a lot of Optiplex 7010 systems and can provide them with 8GB RAM/SSD+HDD for around £130. There are a lot like this on eBay, sure they aren't new but they're very reliable, quiet and fast for the money.

EveryWhere

chib wrote: »

Some terrible and confusing advice in here for the OP. Not everyone wants to open and service a system themselves. You could save money by doing the timing belt on your car yourself - but most wouldn't.

If I'm doing a system build for someone I'd be fitting it with both an SSD for Windows 10, HDD of higher capacity for storage and a minimum of 8GB of RAM. A system with a 1TB HDD and 4GB RAM will perform fine, maybe not as snappy but you'll find it much faster compared to your current system and for light tasks it'll work fine in the years to come.

Personally I buy a lot of Optiplex 7010 systems and can provide them with 8GB RAM/SSD+HDD for around £130. There are a lot like this on eBay, sure they aren't new but they're very reliable, quiet and fast for the money.

How is your advice any different and any less confusing?


What on earth has doing a timing belt to do with anything? Do you think that is a suitable analogy? Ridiculous.

A suitable analogy is putting in gasoline or oil or topping up with water. Everyday maintenance, not a specialist skill. Only cowboys who may have a vested interest in allowing Everyman to believe that it should only be left to an 'expert', would suggest such a thing..
It's like going to a mechanic to top up your water. ridiculous.

All you have done is reiterate what many other people have already written, but added a couple of totally strange comments.

You have totally missed the point.

chib

EveryWhere wrote: »

How is your advice any different and any less confusing?


What on earth has doing a timing belt to do with anything? Do you think that is a suitable analogy? Ridiculous.

A suitable analogy is putting in gasoline or oil or topping up with water. Everyday maintenance, not a specialist skill. Only cowboys who may have a vested interest in allowing Everyman to believe that it should only be left to an 'expert', would suggest such a thing..
It's like going to a mechanic to top up your water. ridiculous.

All you have done is reiterate what many other people have already written, but added a couple of totally strange comments.

You have totally missed the point.

Your responses towards the OP have been very aggressive. They don't want to open the system and do any maintenance, there is no problem with that - get over it.