Which pc?

EveryWhere

This is the OP's device; https://support.hp.com/gb-en/product/compaq-presario-sr5100-desktop-pc-series/3436764/document/c01083559/

Still perfectly serviceable, if we could have got them to service it.

It still has that original spec...twelve years later.

I was here twelve years ago, so I know all about it.

Either way, still on the OP's side. Just giving them a [STRIKE]kick up the ...[/STRIKE] boost. :money:

EveryWhere

Kronkis wrote: »

4GB of Ram, a Processor of speed 3.7GHz, and Windows 10 compared to what he is used to is going to seem super fast!

I wrote much the same some time ago....within this thread.

It's a easy choice for a novice, as they don't have much to do to get up and running. Knowing the OP's aversion to at least getting to know the basics.
Which is a shame, as adding an NVMe SSD and cleaning installing Windows 10 Pro to it or at least cloning the contents of the current HDD will get the best from it for years to come.

It really not worth the OP paying extra a new PC with a NVMe drive fitted, as they are paying a premium for it.
So it's a shame we cannot get them to bypass their fear of change.
Which is why I am being so....encouraging.

Their old device would have been a perfect way to get some practice, at a very low cost.

donnajunkie

EveryWhere wrote: »

My statements are made for a particular reason and that is to get the OP to a point wherein that are not afraid to tackle simple tasks. Your comments mean nothing. Perhaps they make you feel better.
Don't imagine that I care in the slightest.
Now, if you don't mind, unless you have something to contribute, how about you cease to pollute the thread with your off-topic 'opinion'?

If i took a course in the subject the confidence would come then.

donnajunkie

EveryWhere wrote: »

This is the OP's device; https://support.hp.com/gb-en/product/compaq-presario-sr5100-desktop-pc-series/3436764/document/c01083559/

Still perfectly serviceable, if we could have got them to service it.

It still has that original spec...twelve years later.

I was here twelve years ago, so I know all about it.

Either way, still on the OP's side. Just giving them a [STRIKE]kick up the ...[/STRIKE] boost. :money:

It is playing up now though. The visuals were going fuzzy after a few minutes combined with it freezing. I changed the setting to windows basic and now it works better but still with the odd fuzziness. I think messing about replacing the insides is quite pointless at this stage and a whole lot of effort. I just think stuff it, get a new one.

donnajunkie

EveryWhere wrote: »

I wrote much the same some time ago....within this thread.

It's a easy choice for a novice, as they don't have much to do to get up and running. Knowing the OP's aversion to at least getting to know the basics.
Which is a shame, as adding an NVMe SSD and cleaning installing Windows 10 Pro to it or at least cloning the contents of the current HDD will get the best from it for years to come.

It really not worth the OP paying extra a new PC with a NVMe drive fitted, as they are paying a premium for it.
So it's a shame we cannot get them to bypass their fear of change.
Which is why I am being so....encouraging.

Their old device would have been a perfect way to get some practice, at a very low cost.

I am well aware there are better systems than those i looked at out there. Thats why i made a point of saying i am not looking for anything impressive and gave a brief idea of what i use a computer for. So if those i looked at are fine for my needs then wasnt it a bit unfair of people to start making out like they are the worst computers ever and wouldnt fit my needs when now it seems they would.

that

Kronkis wrote: »

4GB of Ram, a Processor of speed 3.7GHz, and Windows 10 compared to what he is used to is going to seem super fast!

Mmmm, you could be correct to say it seems superfast, but that Argos spec is still pants.

Disregarding the screen and things like usb 3.1, this second hand dell tower for less than £90 has for single thread games slightly less cpu power, but for multi core stuff more cpu power. Unless you are only going to play single core games, the £90 on will be better.
* https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-Optiplex-3010-TOWER-Desktop-PC-Intel-i5-3470-3-40GHz-4GB-Windows-10-Pro-500/273867860919

http://hwbench.com/cpus/intel-pentium-gold-g5400-vs-intel-core-i5-3470
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-Gold-G5400-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3470/m484278vs2771

*The above Dell was chosen because it appeared as the first few entries on my screen, and you very well may be able to get something cheaper and better!

EveryWhere

donnajunkie wrote: »

I am well aware there are better systems than those i looked at out there. Thats why i made a point of saying i am not looking for anything impressive and gave a brief idea of what i use a computer for. So if those i looked at are fine for my needs then wasnt it a bit unfair of people to start making out like they are the worst computers ever and wouldnt fit my needs when now it seems they would.

No, it wasn't.
Simply because anything built since 2009 would likely fit your needs, given that you accepted Vista running on 1 GB of RAM and an old and slow electro-mechanical drive.
My laptop from 2007 has 4GB of RAM and an SSD and will most certainly outperform what you have now.

This is a money saving forum. As that has illustrated, you can buy a PC with a similar processing capability for £90 and a bigger and better monitor for £100.
Though for you I would recommend a PC with a full and perhaps extended warranty.

With your new PC, you will just have the same 12 month warranty and then you will be on your own.
No different than if you purchase a high quality refurb or customer return.

So, as I told you in my very first reply...just buy whatever you want, because just about anything will do for you.

Anything will be an improvement on what you have now.

EveryWhere

donnajunkie wrote: »

It is playing up now though. The visuals were going fuzzy after a few minutes combined with it freezing. I changed the setting to windows basic and now it works better but still with the odd fuzziness. I think messing about replacing the insides is quite pointless at this stage and a whole lot of effort. I just think stuff it, get a new one.

Honestly..it really doesn't matter what you say now. You had a different excuse in the years previous. So it all adds up to a whole load of nothing.
You were never going to do anything about it regardless.
But the issue is not about whether you change the innards now. It's that you never even attempted it.
If you had, you would not now be daunted about buying a high quality refurb or fitting an NVMe drive to the HP to future proof it or...

Instead you are afraid to go further then the High street to purchase a PC, you are afraid to buy anything that is not brand new and you are afraid to attempt any kind of simple maintenance.

So many people here over the years have taken the opportunity to learn simple tasks and now can help themselves and help others.

None of this is personal. I am being just as straightforward with you as I would be with myself and anyone else.
It's no good for you to be so helpless in the face of technology. You suffered for years needlessly.
With some relatively simply slotting in of a RAM module or two and the pulling out the leads out of the back of the slow HDD and plugging them into the new SSD, that was the hardware work done. Five to ten minutes and invaluable experience.
Next to learn to install an operating system without needing to disturb your previous setup. More valuable experience.
After which, your twelve year old PC would be ready for use within thirty seconds of switching it on.
No freezing because you don't have enough RAM installed and because the hard drive is thrashing around wildly before anything can occur.

But you suffered all this because of your intransigence. It was wholly unnecessary. You could have actually enjoyed using it for the past few years. Rather than simply tolerating it until you could afford something new.

So we all know that just about anything will be better than what you suffered. But going forward, NVMe storage eliminates the bottleneck that has traditionally hampered laptops and PCs.

The HP has a slot for it. Maybe one day you will be brave enough to try fitting one. Perhaps after the warranty expires. Unlikely, but who knows....

Personally, I like a bigger screen and a wireless keyboard, so I can sit back and not be hunched over a keyboard right in front of the screen.

Your new screen is going to be Full HD, so font will appear smaller. If your old screen is not a widescreen, then the 21.5" screen may appear even smaller than your current screen.
That why I would start at a 24" IPS screen.

There really isn't a need to spend a lot for your needs. But you've pushed yourself into a corner, as you didn't take the opportunity to become more confident with these things.

donnajunkie

that wrote: »

Mmmm, you could be correct to say it seems superfast, but that Argos spec is still pants.

Disregarding the screen and things like usb 3.1, this second hand dell tower for less than £90 has for single thread games slightly less cpu power, but for multi core stuff more cpu power. Unless you are only going to play single core games, the £90 on will be better.
* https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-Optiplex-3010-TOWER-Desktop-PC-Intel-i5-3470-3-40GHz-4GB-Windows-10-Pro-500/273867860919

http://hwbench.com/cpus/intel-pentium-gold-g5400-vs-intel-core-i5-3470
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-Gold-G5400-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3470/m484278vs2771

*The above Dell was chosen because it appeared as the first few entries on my screen, and you very well may be able to get something cheaper and better!

As i said though, i dont do gaming on a pc.

donnajunkie

EveryWhere wrote: »

No, it wasn't.
Simply because anything built since 2009 would likely fit your needs, given that you accepted Vista running on 1 GB of RAM and an old and slow electro-mechanical drive.
My laptop from 2007 has 4GB of RAM and an SSD and will most certainly outperform what you have now.

This is a money saving forum. As that has illustrated, you can buy a PC with a similar processing capability for £90 and a bigger and better monitor for £100.
Though for you I would recommend a PC with a full and perhaps extended warranty.

With your new PC, you will just have the same 12 month warranty and then you will be on your own.
No different than if you purchase a high quality refurb or customer return.

So, as I told you in my very first reply...just buy whatever you want, because just about anything will do for you.

Anything will be an improvement on what you have now.

My purpose was to try and ensure i dont buy anything with a known fault. I got a mobile phone a few years ago thinking it was a good one only to find when the touch screen started to go wrong that it was a known fault with that specific model.
I also wanted to ensure i get something that runs well enough. It was only after i got my current pc that i found out vista was known to be resource hungry and i could have done with another 1gb of ram. Theres nothing wrong with aiming for the best but for me it needs to be within my budget and also not involve a load of messing about.