Police Speed Guns

SHAFT

JustAnotherSaver wrote: »

Except highly highly highly unlikely to face anything for doing 31 in a 30. It's like saying you could be hit by a meteor if you step outside, but then you don't even need to step outside to run that risk.

But the charge is the same whatever the speed and the offence is exceeding the limit. You have confused law with guidelines for prosecution.

SHAFT

TooManyPoints wrote: »

Which force was that, then? I’ll try and find out what their policy is (but see below).



Of those forces where I have seen their policies published, all of them, without exception, say that they adhere to the guidance issued by the National Police Chiefs’ Council (Limit + 10% +2mph). I have heard reports of action being taken below that level but have never seen any at first hand.



Yes, Pistonheads is a strange forum. Aside from the "speeding is cool" gang it is also frequented by one or two motoring solicitors whose answer to everything (incredible as it may seem) is to “employ a solicitor”. This even sometimes extends to engaging one to put forward “mitigation” for perfectly straightforward guilty pleas where the defendant would do better putting their fees towards his fine.

Unless you received one or were preparing a defence why would you?

AdrianC

TadleyBaggie wrote: »

It was reported a few years ago that (I believe) North Wales were going to enforce limits without any 10%+2 allowance.

Back in the Chief Constable Brainstawm days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Brunstrom#Road_safety

TooManyPoints

Unless you received one or were preparing a defence why would you?

Because I see quite a lot of NIPs for reasons which I won't go into.

VWPolecat

There will be more kids run over while drivers are driving with their eyes glued to the speedo to avoid going at 31 mph and only taking an occasional glance out of the windscreen. The tolerance for instrument driving seems to be getting tighter than a commercial pilots instrument rating.

ElefantEd

You don't have to glue your eyes to the speedo to be able to keep to the limit. A quick look every 10 seconds is perfectly sufficient - or, if you are an experienced driver, you can tell your speed pretty well by the sound of the engine* and the motion of the car without looking at the speedo at all.


I doubt any prosecution would happen at 31mph in a 30 zone though, if only because the instrument error would probably be +_ 0.5 mph.



*at least I could until I got an electric car!

MEM62

Monkey22 wrote: »

I do fully support them using the guns and cameras, it’s just it felt a bit on the side of trying to catch out genuine mistakes, the hills EXTREMELY long and steep, and she was round the corner at the very bottom... I understand no one should speed but if someone didn’t quite hit the breaks in time it’d be very easy to get a few MPH over, and I have personally seen a nip for 32mph which my friend got, ironically from the fixed camera on the same road

Is your suggestion that you do not have sufficient control of your car to keep it within the legal limit because you are going downhill? If you put that forward as a defence then your competence to drive should be called into question.

Don't get me wrong, I am far from an avia anti-speeding campaigner but you should be able to control your vehicle.

SHAFT

TooManyPoints wrote: »

Because I see quite a lot of NIPs for reasons which I won't go into.

Unless you work somewhere that either produces NIP's or in a large fleet office you won't have. Just saying you have just puts you in the same category as the pepipoo armchair lawyers.

Aylesbury_Duck

VWPolecat wrote: »

There will be more kids run over while drivers are driving with their eyes glued to the speedo to avoid going at 31 mph and only taking an occasional glance out of the windscreen.

You're sure of that, are you? It sounds ridiculous to me. Probably because it is.

TooManyPoints

Unless you work somewhere that either produces NIP's or in a large fleet office you won't have. Just saying you have just puts you in the same category as the pepipoo armchair lawyers.

Yes, I may be one of those two, maybe not because your list is by no means exhaustive. If that places me alongside Pepipoo's "armchair lawyers" that's a cross I'll just have to bear. But the bottom line is whether you believe me or not is of absolutely no interest to me.

But petty bickering aside, I would be interested to see a NIP for a speed below the NPCC's threshold. I'm not suggesting they are never issued although I have seen numerous reports of them here and elsewhere. I've never seen one and neither have quite a few other people I know who take an interest in these matters.