OPS - Forbidding posting on MSE Parking forum

ParkingMad

OPS website FAQ:

Why did I not get a VAT number on the receipt when I paid my charge?

The receipt will not show a VAT number as a parking charge is essentially a contract between ourselves and the driver/keeper and not considered a supply of service to the landowner. They do not pay for the service and we do not compensate them for any loss caused by any unauthorised vehicle parked on their land. 100% of the charges are retained by the operator which contributes towards the cost of running the business, which in turn is deemed outside the scope of VAT.

Is a PPC PCN
A contractual charge (subject to VAT)
or
Damages due to breach of contract (outside the scope of VAT) limited to the actual damages incurred?

If outside the scope of VAT, do the PPC need to provide proof of the landowner's actual loss?

Snakes_Belly

ParkingMad wrote: »

OPS website FAQ:

Why did I not get a VAT number on the receipt when I paid my charge?

So it is standard practice to issue a receipt for payment of a parking charge?

Woppyman72

This is not correct.

According to their contract they have sent me as part of a POPLA appeal OPS charges the landowner for their services and there are penalties to the landowner if they exit the contract early.

Added to this the landowner has a financial penalty if they request a ticket is rescinded, making any complaint to the landowner from a motorist a rather fruitless exercise.

I see no reason not to provide a VAT receipt if they are VAT registered unless of course they are committing VAT fraud. I cannot imagine a PPC for one moment would be involved in this kind of fraud though.

Coupon-mad

Lots has disappeared from this thread...

DoaM

Woppyman72 wrote: »

As there is no Personal Information contained in the response save my own, I reserve the right to share this information with my legal support team.

Better be careful ... the folks here helping may demand a pay rise.

BrownTrout

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Lots has disappeared from this thread...

Poor silly parking company have got a bit upset me thinks

Half_way

Added to this the landowner has a financial penalty if they request a ticket is rescinded, making any complaint to the landowner from a motorist a rather fruitless exercise.

Who pays what to who in the relationship between the landowner and the parking scum is irrelevant.


complain to the landowner anyway, do you knw who this is? is it a company/group that should know better, or a small scale type set up ( in which case they could be a victim of the PPC as well)

ParkingMad

From Hansard 27 June 2019
Hansard source (Citation: HC Deb, 27 June 2019, cW)

Faisal Rashid
Labour, Warrington South

To ask the Secretary of State for Housing, Communities and Local Government, if he will bring forward plans to draft the parking code of practice.

Daniel Zeichner
Labour, Cambridge

To ask the Secretary of State for Housing, Communities and Local Government, what steps he is taking to implement the Parking (Code of Practice) Act 2019.

Daniel Zeichner
Labour, Cambridge

To ask the Secretary of State for Housing, Communities and Local Government, what plans he has for stakeholder engagement on the development of the secondary legislation code of practice in respect of the Parking (Code of Practice) Act 2019; what the format will be for that engagement; and when that engagement will take place.


Rishi Sunak
Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Housing, Communities and Local Government)

The Government is committed to delivering the Code of Practice as soon as possible. We are currently considering the format for stakeholder engagement, and options for the delivery of the Code and the design of the levy on industry. We will make an announcement in due course. We are also committed to carrying out a public consultation on the draft Code of Practice, allowing all interested parties to directly respond to the proposals.

The_Slithy_Tove

ParkingMad wrote: »

The Government is committed to delivering the Code of Practice as soon as possible. We are currently considering the format for stakeholder engagement, and options for the delivery of the Code and the design of the levy on industry.

Those two sentences are contradictory. While the wheels grind slowly (the gist of sentence #2), there's no way anything'll happen in short order (the gist of sentence #1), especially as they are still at the "considering the format" phase, let alone planning and implementing.

The_Deep

Those two sentences are contradictory.

I would expect nothing less.