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PCN for parking on land with cameras - no windscreen ticket but NTK

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  • Glassman
    Glassman Posts: 148 Forumite
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    burhaan777 wrote: »
    You've raised some excellent points there!

    The driver never left the vehicle.


    ( "The Driver" )


    The Driver didn't leave the vehicle.



    It just comes across as you just wanting to wriggle out of a situation that you were aware you were in from the outset. Correction: Sorry, The Driver knew that The Driver was in.



    Why not either accept the consequences or encourage 'the driver' to take reasonable steps to explain that there has been a huge misunderstanding?
  • burhaan777
    burhaan777 Posts: 21 Forumite
    Glassman wrote: »
    ( "The Driver" )


    The Driver didn't leave the vehicle.



    It just comes across as you just wanting to wriggle out of a situation that you were aware you were in from the outset. Correction: Sorry, The Driver knew that The Driver was in.



    Why not either accept the consequences or encourage 'the driver' to take reasonable steps to explain that there has been a huge misunderstanding?

    Actually, the driver wasn't aware of the parking restrictions as the signs just had a large P on them with some tiny text beneath it.
  • Glassman
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    burhaan777 wrote: »
    Actually, the driver wasn't aware of the parking restrictions as the signs just had a large P on them with some tiny text beneath it.


    A 'P' which usually indicates it's a car park or car parking facility, then. I see.



    Easy mistake to make that the land owner might have something to say about the matter.
  • burhaan777
    burhaan777 Posts: 21 Forumite
    Glassman wrote: »
    A 'P' which usually indicates it's a car park or car parking facility, then. I see.



    Easy mistake to make that the land owner might have something to say about the matter.

    You've echoed my thoughts.
  • Glassman
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    burhaan777 wrote: »
    You've echoed my thoughts.


    Only, you didn't want to observe the notice (or terms) at the time of the event and now that they've grabbed you by the short and curlies you are refusing to accept the consequences as well?



    Reasonable.
  • burhaan777
    burhaan777 Posts: 21 Forumite
    Glassman wrote: »
    Only, you didn't want to observe the notice (or terms) at the time of the event and now that they've grabbed you by the short and curlies you are refusing to accept the consequences as well?



    Reasonable.

    The driver is entitled to challenge whatever they wish so thanks for your opinion.
  • Glassman
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    burhaan777 wrote: »
    Were you present at the car park with the driver? Do you know all of the circumstances? I'll answer that for you; NO!

    Now I suggest you move on with your life or try getting one.

    I'll be ignoring any further comments from you so have a nice life!


    When you enter an arena asking for advice and opinions expect to get them.



    They won't all be the ones you want.
  • Coupon-mad
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    burhaan777 wrote: »
    The driver is entitled to challenge whatever they wish so thanks for your opinion.
    Quite right, burhaan777.

    You might prefer to follow the advice of regular posters on this board, who would not have written the criticism above and would never tell people:
    ''they've grabbed you by the short and curlies you are refusing to accept the consequences...''

    Glassman seems to have missed the fact that PPCs are scammers.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • Glassman
    Glassman Posts: 148 Forumite
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    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    not all PPCs are scammers.


    FTFY


    In any case, the point is more about the OP knew of the circumstances and deliberately tried to keep off radar. Didn't notice eye in the sky.



    If you don't want to play by their rules, don't go in their playground. There's nothing complicated about that.
  • Umkomaas
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    If you don't want to play by their rules, don't go in their playground. There's nothing complicated about that.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5473743/confusion-over-ukpc-parking-charge
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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