Advice for my elderly dad

elsien

The boiler grants are for people receiving pension credit. With the amount of savings your dad has, he is not going to be eligible.

sistafromanothermista

elsien wrote: »

The boiler grants are for people receiving pension credit. With the amount of savings your dad has, he is not going to be eligible.

Ok thanks I won’t bother with that then 😂

WhenIam64

The boiler grants are for people receiving pension credit. With the amount of savings your dad has, he is not going to be eligible.

Check eligibility. Though PC may be the qualifier now, it wasn't when I got mine a couple of years ago.

These are funded through ECO's (Energy Company Obligations) and the terms and the amounts of money changes. For example, in some areas those in receipt of benefits get vouchers for pre-pay meters but when the ECO runs out, there are no further vouchers. The schemes change all the time and vary by region.

Check with your local benefits charity as to what ECO's are in play and for which groups.

xylophone

The answer is no we can’t! We had one guy say he could do the job to which my father then said to us and him ‘I think it’s something to think about’ in dad speak that is thank you but I’m not going to bother.

I used the bold. And the answer is yes you can ( well at least one plumber) but your father refuses to have the work done?

Was your father assessed before leaving hospital? Normally when a patient is old and infirm, this is done to see whether they need help/aids/assistance in the home.

I could see the hospital refusing to release him to a house with no functioning lavatory.

And yes, I know how stubborn the elderly can be - my relative's late relative refused to have a stair lift, hand holds attached to walls etc not because of any money worries but simply because she did not want the appearance of the house "spoiled" as she put it!

elsien

If he has mental capacity the hospital can't refuse to release him - there is no legal mechanism to keep him there. People who understand and accept the risks have every right to make unwise decisions, regardless of age.

sistafromanothermista

xylophone wrote: »

I used the bold. And the answer is yes you can ( well at least one plumber) but your father refuses to have the work done?

Was your father assessed before leaving hospital? Normally when a patient is old and infirm, this is done to see whether they need help/aids/assistance in the home.

I could see the hospital refusing to release him to a house with no functioning lavatory.

And yes, I know how stubborn the elderly can be - my relative's late relative refused to have a stair lift, hand holds attached to walls etc not because of any money worries but simply because she did not want the appearance of the house "spoiled" as she put it!

Hi,no. No check was done. They didn’t even ask. I wish they would have as coming from someone in authority might have been the answer.

elsien

Would your dad be likely to accept a needs assessment now he's home?

If so, he can see if he's eligible for a local authority needs assessment under the Care Act.

The criteria are that
- you have needs connected with any kind of disability, physical or mental illness, and
- those needs mean you are unable to achieve two or more required
outcomes, The list of outcomes:
(a) managing and maintaining nutrition
(b) maintaining personal hygiene
(c) managing toilet needs
(d) being appropriately clothed (including being able to get dressed)
(e) being able to make use of your home safely
(f) maintaining a habitable home environment
(g) developing and maintaining family or other personal relationships
(h) accessing and engaging in work, training, education or volunteering
(i) making use of facilities or services in the local community including
public transport, and recreational facilities or services

and that results, or is likely to result, in a significant impact on your
wellbeing.

The downside is that he has to be willing to request and engage in the assessment, and any help offered is likely to be means tested. But if you think having a professional telling him might have more impact, it may be worth considering.

Full link for more information here:

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/globalassets/age-uk/documents/factsheets/fs41_how_to_get_care_and_support_fcs.pdf

xylophone

I do remember when relative's relative had second bone breaking fall and was taken to hospital for x-ray/plaster etc, she insisted on being taken home.

She had not long arrived there when there was a knock at the door - the social care team had been alerted by the hospital and had come to check that she could manage, would be checked by the district nurse etc.

After the third bone breaking fall, it was eight weeks in a rehab unit - the hospital would have arranged a similar home visit check except for the fact that she agreed that it was time that the family home was sold and a move into a residential home arranged immediately on discharge.

TELLIT01

What others may perceive it as being "time for" and what an individual will accept as a necessity are not always the same thing. The father may be stubborn and unwilling to accept that work needs to be done on the house, but that doesn't mean they will be deemed mentally incompetent. If he refuses help there is little anybody can do without going down the route of proving mental incompetence, and that is a massive step to consider let alone actually take.

bspm1

sistafromanothermista wrote: »

Wow seems I have a stalker.
That’s correct he only has an immersion heater no central heating or boiler.
You may be cynical but also correct. He is in a bigger mess now than he was.
Thank you for your views and judgement that ‘no amount of distance from parents should allow a situation to become that bad’ but you really don’t have a full comprehension of my life or the lives of my family.
To the person who kindly used BOLD to ask if we really cannot find a plumber. The answer is no we can’t! We had one guy say he could do the job to which my father then said to us and him ‘I think it’s something to think about’ in dad speak that is thank you but I’m not going to bother.

Very frustrating for all of us as most of you can imagine as we cannot forced him to spend his money no matter how much we would like to.
What do we do? Steal his bank card and arrange it and spend it anyway? No. I think everyone will agree that is not going to happen.

I am not trying to get something for nothing but if he was entitled to some sort of grant it would mean I could sort it out myself! No one had POA. He is still legally married to my mum who moved out 20 years ago. That’s a different story that I won’t go into.

Anyway thank you to the members here who can see it from my point of view and shame on the ones who think this is an easy situation and are implying we are not trying to do our best for him.

Not a stalker at all, it's called reading other threads posted by yourself to get a gist of why you find yourself in this ridiculous and awful position now.