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County court claim form from excel parking services

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  • Caspar7
    Caspar7 Posts: 17 Forumite
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    D_P_Dance said:
    Have you complained to your MP?
    No I haven't done that.
  • Redx
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    Caspar7 said:
    Redx said:
    No , because the defence went to the CCBC in Northampton , not your local court

    Once the CCBC allocated a local court they withdraw from the case , so your witness statement plus exhibits plus costs schedule etc go to your local court (a bundle that you hand in) plus a bundle posted to the claimant

    Your court order tells you what is required and where they go , please read it carefully

    Any supplementary witness statements etc go to the same recipients , don't think you can ambush on the day as it won't be allowed , follow the instructions given above , plus links to what you require are in the template defence thread posted by coupon mad 2 weeks ago , plus the abuse of process thread by beamerguy as well , the search function on here is faulty so we can only do the same as you

    You need to get up to speed on this because your absence means you are way behind on those developments
    Yes, I have already done this. I sent all the relevant info to my local court prior to the first court date that was issued. It has then subsequently been moved to a following date and the new letter with the new date they sent me hasn't requested any further documents or given any additional timescales as it has all already been sent in. If I have submitted my defence, my exhibitions and my witness statement then is there anything else I need to do? I had it all checked over in this thread previously and sent it all in within the timescales. 

    If I have already sent all of that information off then is there anything else I need to do before the court date? 
    Submit supplementary material as detailed by coupon mad in her previous reply , to your local court and the claimant

    You asked if it goes to the same place as the defence , the answer is no , definitely not
  • Caspar7
    Caspar7 Posts: 17 Forumite
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    Redx said:
    Caspar7 said:
    Redx said:
    No , because the defence went to the CCBC in Northampton , not your local court

    Once the CCBC allocated a local court they withdraw from the case , so your witness statement plus exhibits plus costs schedule etc go to your local court (a bundle that you hand in) plus a bundle posted to the claimant

    Your court order tells you what is required and where they go , please read it carefully

    Any supplementary witness statements etc go to the same recipients , don't think you can ambush on the day as it won't be allowed , follow the instructions given above , plus links to what you require are in the template defence thread posted by coupon mad 2 weeks ago , plus the abuse of process thread by beamerguy as well , the search function on here is faulty so we can only do the same as you

    You need to get up to speed on this because your absence means you are way behind on those developments
    Yes, I have already done this. I sent all the relevant info to my local court prior to the first court date that was issued. It has then subsequently been moved to a following date and the new letter with the new date they sent me hasn't requested any further documents or given any additional timescales as it has all already been sent in. If I have submitted my defence, my exhibitions and my witness statement then is there anything else I need to do? I had it all checked over in this thread previously and sent it all in within the timescales. 

    If I have already sent all of that information off then is there anything else I need to do before the court date? 
    Submit supplementary material as detailed by coupon mad in her previous reply , to your local court and the claimant

    You asked if it goes to the same place as the defence , the answer is no , definitely not
    ah okay, thank you. I shall see what I can put together around this. I have found the southampton case from a previous thread so I shall attach this and send it to the local court that are dealing with everything. I am struggling to find the cost assessment template. Please can you point me in the right direction?

    thanks
  • Caspar7
    Caspar7 Posts: 17 Forumite
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    I have now found the summary cost assessment so shall fill this out and email it to the claimant and also to the local court. I will also attach the britannia vs Crosby approved judgement document as an aide. I shall also look for a skeleton argument that matches my own case.  

    In the County Court at vvvvvvvvvvv 
    Claim No.: vvvvvvvvv
    Between
    parking company's name
    (Claimant)
    -v-

    (your name)
    (Defendant)

    DEFENDANT'S SCHEDULE OF COSTS

    Ordinary Costs

    Loss of earnings/leave, incurred through attendance at Court xx/xx/2020 £xx.00

    Return mileage from home address to Court (e.g. 5 miles x £0.45) £x.xx

    Parking near Court £5.00

    Sub-total £xxx.xx ======


    Further costs for Claimant's unreasonable behaviour, pursuant to Civil Procedure Rule 27.14(2)(g) 

    Research, preparation and drafting of documents (3 hours at Litigant in Person rate of £19 per hour) £57.00

    Stationery, printing, photocopying and postage: £15.00

    Sub-total £xxx.xx ======


    £ ______ TOTAL COSTS CLAIMED
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,565 Forumite
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    edited 11 March 2020 at 3:29AM
    No-one said to file a skeleton defence...that is not what I called it and not what the NEWBIES thread calls it.

    Nor is this the right heading based on our newest advice:
    DEFENDANT'S SCHEDULE OF COSTSIt's a SUMMARY COSTS ASSESSMENT and needs to be signed & dated.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Caspar7
    Caspar7 Posts: 17 Forumite
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    No-one said to file a skeleton defence...that is not what I called it and not what the NEWBIES thread calls it.

    Nor is this the right heading based on our newest advice:
    DEFENDANT'S SCHEDULE OF COSTS
    It's a SUMMARY COSTS ASSESSMENT and needs to be signed & dated.

    I shall amend the summary cost assesement and sign and date it and then send to the claimant and the court.

    The whole skeleton thing is confusing me? Do I need to send something else into the courts or not? I have my defence and my WS printed and have had another good read through as it has been some time since I wrote them. I have also had another look at the information that the claimant has supplied again. aside from signing and sending off the summary cost assessment, is there anything else that I should be doing before court in a few days?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,565 Forumite
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    edited 11 March 2020 at 5:20PM
    This is what I said before, and this advice still stands and I've put the bit you are missing in bold:
    As you were away from this forum since October, I am concerned to check:
    - did you also file & serve a Summary Costs Assessment yet?  You must do before the hearing (see other threads).
    - have you read what happened at Southampton and Skipton courts?
    - do you understand how the £60 added onto the parking charge is unlawful on three counts?
    - if not, I suggest you submit a skeleton argument now, attaching the legal judgments, as well as Schedule 2 of the the CRA 2015 with paras 6, 10, 14 an 18 highlighted as 'breached;' and a Summary Costs Assessment signed by you.

    To get up to speed and find the Court Orders you need to read and use, search 'template defence' and read what we now suggest people put in defence, and people in your position can crib from that template and make a skeleton argument from it!



    So, search template defence and read what to put in now, that you missed.  But head your document up 'skeleton argument'.  Attach what the template defence now does.

    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Caspar7
    Caspar7 Posts: 17 Forumite
    10 Posts
    This is what I said before, and this advice still stands and I've put the bit you are missing in bold:
    As you were away from this forum since October, I am concerned to check:
    - did you also file & serve a Summary Costs Assessment yet?  You must do before the hearing (see other threads).
    - have you read what happened at Southampton and Skipton courts?
    - do you understand how the £60 added onto the parking charge is unlawful on three counts?
    - if not, I suggest you submit a skeleton argument now, attaching the legal judgments, as well as Schedule 2 of the the CRA 2015 with paras 6, 10, 14 an 18 highlighted as 'breached;' and a Summary Costs Assessment signed by you.

    To get up to speed and find the Court Orders you need to read and use, search 'template defence' and read what we now suggest people put in defence, and people in your position can crib from that template and make a skeleton argument from it!



    So, search template defence and read what to put in now, that you missed.  But head your document up 'skeleton argument'.  Attach what the template defence now does.

    Okay, so for some reason the template defence wasn't opening on my computer but I have managed to open it on my phone any email it to myself. I shall print and sign this and send this to the court and Excel parking headed up as Skeleton argument alongside the appendix's that were attached to that. I have also sent up to signed Summary cost assessment. 

    Is there anything else that I need to do or is this everything now to put me in good stead for the court date? 

    thank you very much for all of your help. This whole thing still baffles me a lot. 
  • Redx
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    edited 12 March 2020 at 11:09AM
    If you don't have Microsoft office installed on your computer , download and install libre office , also download and install Adobe reader for pdf reading too , those two should cover most issues

    Nobody expects a newbie or Joe public to understand it all , but the choices are DIY with help from volunteers or pay a lawyer hundreds of pounds to do it for you (like buying a house and conveyancing , or making a will)

    I know 2 lawyers that don't deal with this topic and struggle when I try to explain the topic , yet are brilliant in wills and probate and criminal law , horses for courses

    They are not good on computers either but are excellent at internet searches and Microsoft office and emails , but no idea about security , virus killers and windows issues
  • Caspar7
    Caspar7 Posts: 17 Forumite
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    Redx said:
    If you don't have Microsoft office installed on your computer , download and install libre office , also download and install Adobe reader for pdf reading too , those two should cover most issues

    Nobody expects a newbie or Joe public to understand it all , but the choices are DIY with help from volunteers or pay a lawyer hundreds of pounds to do it for you (like buying a house and conveyancing , or making a will)

    I know 2 lawyers that don't deal with this topic and struggle when I try to explain the topic , yet are brilliant in wills and probate and criminal law , horses for courses
    thanks, this has made me feel much better. I am actually very qualified in the mortgage field so could help anyone with that day in day out but I have never had to face anything like this in my life and juggling a newborn as a single mother has made this an even harder task and to be honest I am a bit scared! 

    I shall download/install what you have suggested. I am sending these documents off today. Is there anything else that I now need to do before the big day? 

    again, thank you so much for your help! 
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