Can Matt Emulsion be painted over with Gloss ?

jaffacake2019

couriervanman wrote: »

Because you've used cheap nasty bulk white emulsion.......spend e few quid more and get yourself some decent stuff

yeh, ok, i think good idea

(I bought 10 litres for £10 from my local DIY shop before)

neilmcl

jaffacake2019 wrote: »

Last time I used matt emulsion, now i when i clean it, the water in the bucket turns milky white which means the paint is coming off with the sponge.

A quick wipe with a damp cloth is usually all that's required, sounds like your soaking the walls unnecessarily so no wonder paint is coming off.

jaffacake2019

neilmcl wrote: »

A quick wipe with a damp cloth is usually all that's required, sounds like your soaking the walls unnecessarily so no wonder paint is coming off.

I needed to scrub in places, and that means wetting the sponge more than twice.
I have just scrubbed a small wall and although the dirt is gone it is stained. There is another wall which almost black, and it happens every winter sometimes i see water trickling down that wall (and no there no roof leak even though i live on the top floor).

So, that was the original reason why i wanted to avoid matt emulsion. Something that wouldn't make the walls dirty or it would be just easy to clean wipe. (matt emulsion isnt the cause but i wanted easy to wipe down)

The reason i say that is because i used to have some kind of paint in the kitchen (the place was built in the 50's) which was a bit shiny/glossy but water just ran down the walls or got wet from condensation but never made the walls dirty/grimy or turned it black. In the kitchen i never needed to wipe it down because the water would just then dry itself without any staining.

Now i'm thinking if kitchen paint or bathroom paint would be better :question:

troffasky

jaffacake2019 wrote: »

There is another wall which almost black, and it happens every winter sometimes i see water trickling down that wall (and no there no roof leak even though i live on the top floor).

That sounds like condensation. What colour was it before it was almost black? Is it an external wall? Does it feel particularly cold to the touch [might need to wait about 6 months to answer that one...]?

TheCyclingProgrammer

You can get scrubbable emulsions. I’ve had good success with the Valspar premium range. Eggshell can be used on walls too for durability.

Grenage

troffasky wrote: »

That sounds like condensation. What colour was it before it was almost black? Is it an external wall? Does it feel particularly cold to the touch [might need to wait about 6 months to answer that one...]?

Concrete dwellings are notorious for condensation; I'd be using a dehumidifier, increasing ventilation, or insulating to try and avoid the mould in the first place.

jaffacake2019

troffasky wrote: »

That sounds like condensation. What colour was it before it was almost black? Is it an external wall? Does it feel particularly cold to the touch [might need to wait about 6 months to answer that one...]?

It was a white wall. It is an internal wall.

jaffacake2019

Grenage wrote: »

Concrete dwellings are notorious for condensation; I'd be using a dehumidifier, increasing ventilation, or insulating to try and avoid the mould in the first place.

dehumidifier in every room would be expensive and cause more noise. The flat below used to use a dehumidifier but because of the noise they stopped using it.

Keeping the windows open in winter is a no no, very cold. If you turn the heating on then the room wont get warm all the heat will escape through the open window and you'll end up with a huge bill to pay for nothing.

Grenage

jaffacake2019 wrote: »

dehumidifier in every room would be expensive and cause more noise. The flat below used to use a dehumidifier but because of the noise they stopped using it.

Keeping the windows open in winter is a no no, very cold. If you turn the heating on then the room wont get warm all the heat will escape through the open window and you'll end up with a huge bill to pay for nothing.

One dehumidifier should be sufficient; they don't have to be noisy. Positive pressure ventilation systems won't make your house as cold as opening windows.

Aylesbury_Duck

jaffacake2019 wrote: »

yeh, ok, i think good idea

(I bought 10 litres for £10 from my local DIY shop before)

Jesus. At that price it must have been awful. You'd have had a better finish with milk.