Why is my home's sold price public, but that of celebs isn't?

Supersonos

I read with interest that John Bishop's mansion has just sold for £6.8m. Like a lot of occasions when I read things like this, I did some hunting and found the house online. But Zoopla shows no sold price, sold date or current estimated value.

It simply shows listed for sale in June 2010 for £2.5m and sold for £6.8m in Sept 2018.

So how do celebs manage to keep their dealings private when all of us plebs have it all made public?

AnotherJoe

Supersonos wrote: »

I read with interest that John Bishop's mansion has just sold for £6.8m. Like a lot of occasions when I read things like this, I did some hunting and found the house online. But Zoopla shows no sold price, sold date or current estimated value.

It simply shows listed for sale in June 2010 for £2.5m and sold for £6.8m in Sept 2018.

So how do celebs manage to keep their dealings private when all of us plebs have it all made public?

????

Eh?You say Zoopla doesn't show the sold price and then go on to say it does show the sold price????
2. Zoopla isnt the database of record. That is the LR.

davidmcn

Supersonos wrote: »

So how do celebs manage to keep their dealings private?

Obviously they don't, otherwise the journalists wouldn't be able to find the details to create a story about it.

babyblade41

Why does it even matter ??

shortcrust

He’s only just sold it. It’ll be a few weeks before the land registry info is publicly available.

As if John Bishop would somehow get the sale info ‘classified’ when there are a load of newspaper stories about it. Particularly as HS2 have bought it.

More importantly than that, how has John Bishop got a 7m mansion?!

getmore4less

You don't know how big his mortgage was.

Supersonos

shortcrust wrote: »

He’s only just sold it.

It sold in September 2018. I guess it's only now the press have found out.

Supersonos

AnotherJoe wrote: »

????

Eh?You say Zoopla doesn't show the sold price and then go on to say it does show the sold price????

It shows "listed for sale" in 2010 and then "sold" in 2018. It doesn't show the actual purchase of the property that Bishop made in 2010 and the actual purchase price, just the listed price.

Everyone else's house - yours, mine, my Mum's etc., is there online for everyone to see. So why not Bishop's and the various other celebs I've tried to look-up in the past?

As such, there is no "Zoopla estimated value" as there is for everyone else's house. Can you pay to have that sort of info witheld from the land registry?

SG27

From what I remember property bought by companies dont show up on land registry database. So probably bought that way. But you can still buy a copy of the title for £3 and see the price and the company that owns it. So its still not private anyway.

Supersonos

shortcrust wrote: »

More importantly than that, how has John Bishop got a 7m mansion?!

Comedians earn very well. Arena tours where he played to thousands of people each night would be his biggest earner. No band or dancers or orchestra to pay. No elaborate sets. Just him.

He did two nights at the O2 a couple of years ago. 20,000 capacity, I guess around £40 a ticket on average - that's £1.6m in ticket sales alone of which he'd get the largest cut. Add his share of food/drink sales and car parking charges, and I'd imagine he'll have come away with at least £1.5m. For about 6 hours work.

davidmcn

Supersonos wrote: »

It shows "listed for sale" in 2010 and then "sold" in 2018. It doesn't show the actual purchase of the property that Bishop made in 2010 and the actual purchase price, just the listed price.

Everyone else's house - yours, mine, my Mum's etc., is there online for everyone to see.

Not quite everyone, as various previous threads here have discussed. The glitches are in the free house price data the LR makes available, which (deliberately) doesn't include some types of transaction which it doesn't regard as standard arms-length sales (and I suspect the HS2 compensation ones may well count as abnormal), and some others which don't appear for unknown reasons. There's no "VIP" option to make things confidential - everything the Land Registry knows about is publicly available if you go looking for a specific property (and are prepared to pay their fee).

As such, there is no "Zoopla estimated value" as there is for everyone else's house. Can you pay to have that sort of info witheld from the land registry?

Zoopla don't estimate values for every property, and their algorithms are only likely to work where it can find suitable comparable properties, and can work out what's roughly happening to e.g. 3 bed semis in your post code - the likes of mansions aren't really within their remit.