Citroen C1, Peugeot 107 or Toyota Aygo

daveyjp

"my car has a Japanese chassis number and according to the garage, this identifies where the car was made"

Christa - how do you know when a car dealer is lying? His lips move.

I have also heard a salesman tell a prospective Aygo owner that Aygos are built from thicker steel than the Pug Cit versions.

It is complete nonsense. All C1, Pug 107 and Aygos are made in the Czech Republic on the same production line.

http://www.tpca.cz/en/

Christa1

It doesn't bother me where it is made, it came up in conversation after we had bought the car.Interesting that he said some cars are also made in Turkey too?
As I said previously, wherever they are made it's the P&C cars that are benefiitting as the production is led by Toyota using their systems and processes.

steve_r123

I have the Peugeot. Brilliant car, but I would say the Toyota looks better, and has the best badge. For me the Peugeot was the best bet, as the Citroen dealer was rubbish, didnt know basic details of the car. The Toyota dealer, although good is almost 3 times as far away from my house. I have got the Urban Move, a special edition which I don't think they do anymore, but it was the best value for me as it has aircon.

C_Ronaldo

anewman wrote: »

All 3 are made in same factory by PSA/Toyota in the Czech Republic and sold under different brands at the end.

ah i see, learn something new everyday

ncynotts

Found this bit of info on who owns who.....
PSA holds a collaboration agreement with Fiat known as Sevel (Société Européenne de Véhicules Légers SpA, owned 50% by Fiat, 25% by Automobiles Peugeot and 25% by Automobiles Citroën). As a result of this, two factories have been built assembling three ranges of vehicles, Sevel Nord and Sevel Sud.
There is a more recent agreement with Toyota Motor Corporation for the development and manufacturing of a series of city cars in a new factory in the Czech Republic. The resulting company is called TPCA (Toyota Peugeot Citroën Automobile) and it currently manufactures the Citroën C1, Peugeot 107 and Toyota Aygo.
There is also a new agreement with PSA and BMW; the new Prince engines designed by this joint venture will replace current PSA's TU engine family.
In 2005, PSA Peugeot Citroën formed an alliance with Mitsubishi Motors. Under the deal, PSA Peugeot Citroën will import the Citroën C-Crosser and Peugeot 4007 for sale in Europe. Those two models are based on the Mitsubishi Outlander, and will be assembled at Mitsubishi's plant in Okazaki, Japan. Engine choices will include PSA Peugeot Citroën's diesel engines and Mitsubishi's petrol engines.
PSA also supplies Ford with a 1.6l Diesel engine used in the Ford Focus and the Volvo S40.

Casanova

I bought a 1-year-old C1 last year as I worked out it would be cheaper than my old Mondeo, even including depreciation, because the tax & fuel are so cheap, and it won't need MOT-ing or fixing any time soon. Plus its got 4-star NCAP which is more than any of my old cars had. And high demand is keeping residuals good for these cars.

The C1/107/Aygo are the same car, built in a Toyota factory in Eastern Europe as mentioned above. I bought the C1 not only because its cheaper, but inexplicably the parts are too (even though they are the same parts you get from a Citroen dealer or a Toyota dealer!). Lots of the parts are stamped Toyota, despite it being a Citroen.

I'm sure it could be serviced anywhere (as with any car). In terms of keeping within warranty terms, there was a recent European ruling too that you didn't have to stick with the main stealer, and warranties had to be valid on all cars wherever they'd been serviced, as long as you could prove genuine manufacturer parts were used when servicing.

Mine's managing between 53mpg (driven hard), and 58mpg (driven gentlyish) so far (3000 miles, figures calculated over a ~400 mile tank brim to brim). As I improve my driving and the car wears in, I'm hoping to reach the 60s. Have read reports of people with more patience than me on motorway journeys getting well into the 70s!

Comments regarding the car - I test drove a few and my number one piece of advice is to go for a 'Rhythm' spec over a 'Vibe' (same specs have different names in Toyota/Peugeot versions). To keep dealing and manufacturing simple, there are very few options, just a low-spec and a high-spec one (aircon at £500 being the main exception). The difference in price is small new, and even less used, but it transforms the car because you get extra soundproofing - Vibes are very raucous. Also gets you a rev counter, remote & central locking, split-fold rear seats, more airbags and electric windows, (although the switch thing is a bit annoying as mentioned above, but its a narrow car so not impractical to reach over).

To drive, it's capable, although the engine takes some getting used to: it has a low thrum at all revs because its a 3-cylinder. Handling is good - although there's not much grip, it hangs on well and communicates the road surface nicely.

Its the best car out of the 17 I've owned. I work in the car industry too so I like to kid myself my opinion matters when it comes to cars Hope this mini-review is useful!

gingerdad

C_Ronaldo wrote: »

How could you get a C1 serviced at toyota

why would you- personnelly i'd get it serviced at a small local garage with genuine parts.

Gracchus_Babeuf

There is a new version of the 107/C1/Aygo coming out soon: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/276793/peugeot_107_revealed.html

Biglad_3

Gracchus_Babeuf wrote: »

There is a new version of the 107/C1/Aygo coming out soon: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/276793/peugeot_107_revealed.html

I'm sorry but I would still go for a Hyundai i10 over any of them, better package.

KTF

Biglad wrote: »

I'm sorry but I would still go for a Hyundai i10 over any of them, better package.

Seconding this. Go and look at the i10 before deciding,