What's happening with the Forums

rls1973

we are all so glad you're back, martin , you and your team are angels, really miss this site when it's down

thanks for all your hard work

bails

Thankyou Martin and the team for all your hard work, today and every day. This site has made such a difference to my life and I am really grateful. Hope you can sort things out soon, I wish I could help but I'm useless with these things! Any other way to help though and I'm your woman! x

wymondham

It's at a time like this when you see how your IT company operates and how good it really is - judge them not just by the failure of the system, but how they worked to rectify it. Lessons can be learnt later. It seems that things were overlooked and not tested and I'm sure this won't be allowed to occur again..... onwards and upwards!

chevalier

Thanks Martin for explaining what is going on. Sometimes life just sucks doesn't it. It WILL still be a great site no matter what
chev

BorisTheSpider_3

alchemista wrote: »

I can only read what was in your post, looks like the quote wasn't complete enough to capture what you were referring to then.

You should have read the previous posts.

If you consider my post to Martin and his staff a scathing attack, that's too bad. If you can't accept it was incompetent to migrate a database without taking a full backup first, then you're in denial.

Step one to recovery is admitting you have a problem.

There is indeed a big problem here. Most companies won't even go on a conference without sending some staff on separate flights, in case a plane falls out of the sky. This is a part of disaster planning, what happens to your business when the brown stuff hits the fan.

Hardware failure is a normal event in IT, it is 100% certain, given sufficient time.

If you do not know exactly what will happen when hardware does fail, and indeed have actually tested your procedures, then your plans are worthless. Many backup restores fail, either because the right data is not being backed up, or simply because the backup has never been verified or tested.

While you as the data owner do not need to know about SQL or database scripts, you do have the basic responsibility to ensure that your business will stay running when the inevitable happens. And there's nothing technical about that.

A backup that has never been tested or checked is no backup at all.

There is a useful lesson from this, for everyone, because nearly everyone has priceless data, be it family photos, emails, accounts, etc., and that is to (a) backup and (b) restore the backup. People are quite happy to spend their money on pet insurance, home insurance, but not interested in learning the lesson of what happens when your hard drive fails. Perhaps one for next week's Money Tips Email?

MSE_Martin

GUYS PLEASE STOP ARGUING ON HERE. LETS JUST PUT A BREAK IN THAT. IT DOESN'T HELP AND BOTH WERE TRYING SUGGESTIONS

PS I presume redux was saying the web archives database is one of the world's biggest not MSE.

martin

southernscouser

MSE_Martin wrote: »

GUYS PLEASE STOP ARGUING ON HERE. LETS JUST PUT A BREAK IN THAT. IT DOESN'T HELP AND BOTH WERE TRYING SUGGESTIONS

You're quite sexy when you shout.

System

southernscouser wrote: »

You're quite sexy when you shout.

he aint bad looking when he dont.;)

Brighton_belle

Martin: you and the team are doing a brilliant job - this is such a good site and I've 'met' some great people on here, as well as had excellent advice. Can't thank you enough:T
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neiljc_2

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

What's the name of that website that holds old cached copies of sites? Might that be of any use, assuming anyone knows what I'm talking about of course


ETA: Just remembered it's called the Wayback Machine! Here you go!!!:j

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com

Who just won post of the month then ? :T