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  • My experience with Tesco bank is that they are so slow at opening accounts. It puts me off unless they are offering a particularly good return that suits my circumstances. 
  • AndyTh_2
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    edited 1 September 2022 at 6:59PM
    I’m actually curious how expected profit accounts would be handling that in the event of collapse, in the same vein as the FCSC protection. Interest savings accounts seemed to me to be guaranteed during the icelandic bank collapse (I got 7% still from Kaupthing Edge transfer to ING Direct for the entire time) 
  • Daliah
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    AndyTh_2 said:
    I’m actually curious how expected profit accounts would be handling that in the event of collapse, in the same vein as the FCSC protection. Interest savings accounts seemed to me to be guaranteed during the icelandic bank collapse (I got 7% still from Kaupthing Edge transfer to ING Direct for the entire time) 
    Why would you expect they'd get handled any different from any other FSCS protected savings accounts?
  • Expotter said:
    On their website now Al Rayan Everyday Saver (issue 3) 2.1% Min £5k
    That looks a good rate. I've never dealt with Al Rayan before and one of the things that concerns me is the minimum deposit of £5000. I always put in an initial £1 test deposit to check I have the new account details correct. Is there some way I can do that with Al Rayan before I up the balance to the necessary £5000+?
    Reginald Molehusband






  • Daliah
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    Expotter said:
    On their website now Al Rayan Everyday Saver (issue 3) 2.1% Min £5k
    That looks a good rate. I've never dealt with Al Rayan before and one of the things that concerns me is the minimum deposit of £5000. I always put in an initial £1 test deposit to check I have the new account details correct. Is there some way I can do that with Al Rayan before I up the balance to the necessary £5000+?
    You can do the £1 test alright.
  • AndyTh_2
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    edited 1 September 2022 at 7:54PM
    Daliah said:
    AndyTh_2 said:
    I’m actually curious how expected profit accounts would be handling that in the event of collapse, in the same vein as the FCSC protection. Interest savings accounts seemed to me to be guaranteed during the icelandic bank collapse (I got 7% still from Kaupthing Edge transfer to ING Direct for the entire time) 
    Why would you expect they'd get handled any different from any other FSCS protected savings accounts?
    expected profit doesn't sound expected in a collapse :) 

    I meant giving a similar weight to lost interest/profit as for pounds over £85k balance in my finance choices
  • Daliah
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    edited 1 September 2022 at 8:13PM
    AndyTh_2 said:
    Daliah said:
    AndyTh_2 said:
    I’m actually curious how expected profit accounts would be handling that in the event of collapse, in the same vein as the FCSC protection. Interest savings accounts seemed to me to be guaranteed during the icelandic bank collapse (I got 7% still from Kaupthing Edge transfer to ING Direct for the entire time) 
    Why would you expect they'd get handled any different from any other FSCS protected savings accounts?
    expected profit doesn't sound expected in a collapse :) 

    I meant giving a similar weight to lost interest/profit as for pounds over £85k balance in my finance choices
    FSCS protects no accounts over £85k [per person], apart from temporary high balances.

    There's a good explanation of expected profit here. I don't think FSCS guarantees anything that hasn't yet been deposited on the account, be it interest or expected profit. In either case, you can limit your exposure by opting for monthly payment (default at Al Rayan. and an option at Gatehouse).

    At the end of the day, if you are unhappy with a Sharia account, you don't have to take out one of them. Just settle for a lower interest rate and be happy  B). Me, I have both, an Al Rayan and a Gatehouse, without any concerns as I keep well within the £85k limit.
  • Daliah said:
    AndyTh_2 said:
    Daliah said:
    AndyTh_2 said:
    I’m actually curious how expected profit accounts would be handling that in the event of collapse, in the same vein as the FCSC protection. Interest savings accounts seemed to me to be guaranteed during the icelandic bank collapse (I got 7% still from Kaupthing Edge transfer to ING Direct for the entire time) 
    Why would you expect they'd get handled any different from any other FSCS protected savings accounts?
    expected profit doesn't sound expected in a collapse :) 

    I meant giving a similar weight to lost interest/profit as for pounds over £85k balance in my finance choices
    FSCS protects no accounts over £85k [per person], apart from temporary high balances.

    There's a good explanation of expected profit here. I don't think FSCS guarantees anything that hasn't yet been deposited on the account, be it interest or expected profit. In either case, you can limit your exposure by opting for monthly payment (default at Al Rayan. and an option at Gatehouse).

    At the end of the day, if you are unhappy with a Sharia account, you don't have to take out one of them. Just settle for a lower interest rate and be happy  B). Me, I have both, an Al Rayan and a Gatehouse, without any concerns as I keep well within the £85k limit.
    I’m with you, I keep my balance below 85k including any interest payable.
    I have No issues with sharia accounts especially when they offer the best rates by far.
  • Molehusband
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    edited 1 September 2022 at 8:37PM
    Daliah said:
    Expotter said:
    On their website now Al Rayan Everyday Saver (issue 3) 2.1% Min £5k
    That looks a good rate. I've never dealt with Al Rayan before and one of the things that concerns me is the minimum deposit of £5000. I always put in an initial £1 test deposit to check I have the new account details correct. Is there some way I can do that with Al Rayan before I up the balance to the necessary £5000+?
    You can do the £1 test alright.
    I've just looked at Moneyfacts for this Al Ryan account which says:
    "Min Opening Amount £5,000"
    so will they still let me pay in an initial £1 for me to test it arrives safely before I top up to £5000+? I don't mind if they pay me no EPR until the balance reaches £5000.
    Another question about Moneyfacts, for this account (and many others), in the View Further Details they say:
    Early Access Allowed x

    What do they mean by x, is that a negative, eg can I not make a withdrawal before a particular time in the day, or can I not make a withdrawal until the account has been open and funded for a minimum period of time, or what?
    Reginald Molehusband






  • Yes you can submit a test payment of £1 with Al Rayan.  I did this a couple of weeks ago and it went through fine.
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