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  • AndyTh_2
    AndyTh_2 Posts: 332 Forumite
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    edited 9 August 2023 at 9:57PM
    Cynergy not doing monthly interest are missing a trick. 4.80%
    you're missing a trick of another kind there, 4.8% gross annual closed monthly is 4.91% effective "AER", since the annual interest is paid then monthly.

    Sure, it's effort though, which Cynergy forces us to do to chase rate rises, but it benefits the customer more than 4.8% AER monthly interest
  • Zaul22
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    While it's too low for anyone to care, I just noticed RCI went up yesterday to 4.5, and their 14 day notice account which is normally 10 points higher also went to only 4.5. Wonder if that is a mistake or they are getting rid of it?
  • tg99
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    Think someone posted about this recently but can’t easily locate - applied for the new Cynergy issue a few hours ago and just got email to say successfully opened and to login to view account but the account isn’t there. Never had this issue before and have got lots of accounts. Think I recall something along lines of the poster who mentioned this had to call Cynergy to fix it as was some kind of IT issue?
  • tg99 said:
    Think someone posted about this recently but can’t easily locate - applied for the new Cynergy issue a few hours ago and just got email to say successfully opened and to login to view account but the account isn’t there. Never had this issue before and have got lots of accounts. Think I recall something along lines of the poster who mentioned this had to call Cynergy to fix it as was some kind of IT issue?
    I just opened one and the account wasn't there the first time I logged in but it was when I tried again a short while later.

  • grumbler
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    edited 10 August 2023 at 12:32AM
    Cynergy not doing monthly interest are missing a trick. 4.80%
    Could be, but with banks like Cynergy offering new accounts after 11 days, any serious rate hoppers opting for monthly interest would be losing a smidgeon if they kept switching accounts.  
    When an annual account is paying 4.80%, a monthly version would only pay 4.70% after a month.  The monthly rate will only match the annual rate if closed on an anniversary.
    But then I never understood why anyone would want monthly interest from an easy access account. For a one or more years fixed term I do understand.

    4.8% AER pays exactly the same per day as 4.7% monthly . Both accrue the same interest daily and nothing to do with an aniversary.
    You clearly don't understand what AER means do you?  I'll give you a clue, it means annual equivalent rate, not daily equivalent rate.
    An account paying 4.7% interest monthly will pay a daily applied rate of 4.7%. Compounded each month that will give you the equivalent of 4.8% (AER) after 12 months, and only after 12 months.  If you close the account at one month there will be no compounding so you will only get 4.7%.  You will only get 4.8% AER if held for a full year or following anniversaries.
     '4.8% annual' will pay a daily applied rate of 4.8%  No matter when the account is closed, you will still get 4.8% AER.
    If that isn't clear, you need to try googling.
    I'm not convinced. Can you google and post a reliable proof, preferably with an example of calculation?
    And even if what you say is true, I don't see any significant difference for 4.7% and 4.8%.
    1.048^(1/12) = 1.00391
    4.7/12 = 0.392

  • tg99
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    tg99 said:
    Think someone posted about this recently but can’t easily locate - applied for the new Cynergy issue a few hours ago and just got email to say successfully opened and to login to view account but the account isn’t there. Never had this issue before and have got lots of accounts. Think I recall something along lines of the poster who mentioned this had to call Cynergy to fix it as was some kind of IT issue?
    I just opened one and the account wasn't there the first time I logged in but it was when I tried again a short while later.

    Thks yes just tried again and has appeared.
  • ForumUser7
    ForumUser7 Posts: 2,484 Forumite
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    Leeds BS Limited Issue Online Access Account (Issue 48) 4.60% MoneyFacts
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  • Bridlington1
    Bridlington1 Posts: 3,828 Forumite
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    edited 10 August 2023 at 4:58AM
    Leeds BS Limited Issue Online Access Account (Issue 48) 4.60% MoneyFacts
    Also it appears Leeds have updated their savings rate changes page. Issue 47 (NLA) will rise to 4.65% from 15/8/2 after all.

    Also Shared Ownership Saver will rise to 6.25%.
  • BestSeagull
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    edited 10 August 2023 at 8:12AM
    TiVo_Lad said:
    All done & dusted with fast-track.😀
    I am getting fed up with all their issue related nonsense and reopening. It's down to minimum balance anyway but thinking of closing mine and OH account. Can't be that difficult to just increase the existing account instead of making me to login each and every time. No app either so for me another disadvantage. 

    I don't disagree that it could be easier but having just quickly opened the new account last night and closed the old one this morning, I have to say, that's still preferable to having to spend the best part of a week moving it all to a different bank.

    At least they are keeping up... looking at you Al Rayan.
  • TiVo_Lad said:
    All done & dusted with fast-track.😀
    I am getting fed up with all their issue related nonsense and reopening. It's down to minimum balance anyway but thinking of closing mine and OH account. Can't be that difficult to just increase the existing account instead of making me to login each and every time. No app either so for me another disadvantage. 

    I don't disagree that it could be easier but having just quickly opened the new account last night and closed the old one this morning, I have to say, that's still preferable to having to spend the best part of a week moving it all to a different bank.

    At least they are keeping up... looking at you Al Rayan.
    Al Rayan seem to have completely lost interest in the market in the past 2/3 months and dropped off the cliff, however they'd have to improve so dramatically now that I doubt it's ever going to happen. It would take a minimum 1.20% hike for me to go back due being non 24/7 and only a Mon - Fri bank.
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