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Vote for Corbyns brexit option....

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  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    Maybe Corbyn puts his rise to power above any UK-EU gains?

    It's not only old Brexiters who are in danger of dying off in the coming years.

    Corbyn is no spring chicken. He may only get one opportunity.

    Maybe...if Corbyn were in power the EU would be paying us 39bn Euro to leave ;)
  • Do you mean join the newly-formed Brexit Party? It's been started up in readiness, in case leaving is cancelled or delayed and has Nigel Farage as it's figurehead.
    !

    Is this not just a new version of UKIP?

    Farage is a metals / commodities trader. I doubt he'll lose out whatever happens. ...
  • kabayiri wrote: »
    Maybe Corbyn puts his rise to power above any UK-EU gains?

    It's not only old Brexiters who are in danger of dying off in the coming years.

    Corbyn is no spring chicken. He may only get one opportunity.

    Maybe...if Corbyn were in power the EU would be paying us 39bn Euro to leave ;)

    Most Labour voters I know (which is most people in my town) don't like Corbyn (or Abbott) - BUT they do like the left wing policies.

    I don't think Corbyn can win, but I do think a successor (eg Clive Lewis) could win and bring in similar polices.
  • cogito
    cogito Posts: 4,898 Forumite
    Nasqueron wrote: »
    We know also that a similar number of 16-17 year olds are now old enough to vote (mostly remain).

    Do we really? How do you know this?
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Is this not just a new version of UKIP?

    Just requires a few wealthy backers to fund enough candidates on a one ticket manifesto..........

    May's MEP elections may prove interesting. With events unfolding in certain parts of Europe.
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    zarf2007 wrote: »
    So basically tie the uk to a permanent customs union therefore Remain. Why doesn’t labour and Corbyn have the guts to say they want to remain instead of the endless spineless fence sitting.

    Of course the EU love his idea, it gives them exactly what they want!

    First sensible contribution Corbyn has made in this debate. A permanent Customs Union is not Remain. We retain control of our fisheries and agriculture and the Backstop goes away. All we would be signing up to is a customs union.

    The alternative is the atrophy of Mays solution or a very damaging no deal exit.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • cogito
    cogito Posts: 4,898 Forumite
    BobQ wrote: »
    First sensible contribution Corbyn has made in this debate. A permanent Customs Union is not Remain. We retain control of our fisheries and agriculture and the Backstop goes away. All we would be signing up to is a customs union.

    The alternative is the atrophy of Mays solution or a very damaging no deal exit.

    What possible reason could we have for joining a Customs Union? I can't think of a single one.
  • J_Nostin
    J_Nostin Posts: 93 Forumite
    cogito wrote: »
    What possible reason could we have for joining a Customs Union? I can't think of a single one.
    But we can think of £60 billion plus per year and more reasons for the EU wanting one. No wonder they're trying their darndest to keep us in, especially given the current recession and or stagnancy of the three major financial contributors once the UK leaves.
  • zarf2007
    zarf2007 Posts: 651 Forumite
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    edited 10 February 2019 at 7:17AM
    So what would you do in Corbyn's position?
    If he came out boldly for a remain-type option, he'd risk losing his traditional voter base (who are now pro-Brexit).

    How about being the so called man of the people he is billed as and do what is right? Stop playing political games and have the guts to state what you really believe in.

    No wonder the populist movement is expanding with these spineless idiots in charge.

    He’s very forthcoming with his terrorist supporting views though isn’t he?

    What angers me is the complete disarray the Torres are in, May has surrounded herself with the most useless bunch since John Major and will no doubt go the same way when Corbyn wins the next election, then god help us.
  • David_Evans
    David_Evans Posts: 248 Forumite
    edited 10 February 2019 at 11:07AM
    zarf2007 wrote: »
    How about being the so called man of the people he is billed as and do what is right? Stop playing political games and have the guts to state what you really believe in.

    No wonder the populist movement is expanding with these spineless idiots in charge.

    He’s very forthcoming with his terrorist supporting views though isn’t he?

    What angers me is the complete disarray the Torres are in, May has surrounded herself with the most useless bunch since John Major and will no doubt go the same way when Corbyn wins the next election, then god help us.

    I'm about 70pc convinced that Labour led by Corbyn will not win the next election.
    Like you mention, the terrorist baggage is an issue - more so for the working class voters. That's what I hear people in my town say anyway.

    I think a Labour Party with even further 'Far Left' policies could win in this country. (eg nationalising utility companies, further tenant rights - even right to buy for private tenants etc).

    But it would mean getting rid of Corbyn, Abbot, Thornberry, Chakrobarty etc.
    These MPs are seen as anti-British, pro-human rights, pigs in the trough lawyers etc.

    As for the Tories - well I don't know what they are. They're certainly not the business friendly party they used to be. May is a nationalist, rather than a capitalist. She's anti-immigration and I cannot see her retaining any support from business leaders.

    At the moment, we have the bizarre situation where a left wing socialist party has more support from business than the Tories!
    It's been openly stated that business leaders fear Brexit will do more damage than nationalising the railways etc. They fear Brexit more than socialism.
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